The importance of muslim immigration to Europe.

how do you know there are any on this board?

http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/3780/spain-muslims-kings

and there no tension in the Balkans is there, except for Kosovo of course

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oh hell yes, give me Isreal over ANY muslim craphole out there

 

good luck Europe,

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/10/atheists-death-penalty-_n_4417994.html

http://midnightwatcher.wordpress.co...rrenders-their-third-largest-city-to-muslims/

 

Nobody seems to care apart from the racists on this forum.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...gela-Merkel-view-multiculturalism-failed.html

 

There are Spanish & Portuguese in the forum and of course i am a Balkanian .

Kosovo is a nationalist issue not a religious one , ever wonder why there isn't any religious clash in Albania ?

Lunatics exist everywhere but still whenever one appears muslim immigrants are the first to point him to the police .
All those countries i mentioned above have a common element in their history : whenever muslims became a problem they exterminated them .

 

I think in a few years you will see all of the Americas Hispanic, except for Canada also.

 

imeant to add 'and the racists in society'

 

I agree with you that the joos turn all their host nations into crapholes, starting with Europe, then Palestine, now soon the USA too, am I wrong?

 

I didn't say that, you can't read very well.

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so the presidents of France , Germany, and England are all racists. Noted

 

Racists? I guess you could say that, regarding the nationalist oppression against France's Bretons and Occitans, or the UK's Welsh and Cornish, and the model they teach to other and new EU members.

 

Sweden will be changed if they assimilate.

What do you plan to do if America or Sweden becomes like Baghdad?

 

Well, slavs haven't been in the EU as long and there is a better standard of living in western Europe, but eastern europe is experiencing Muslim immigration now. I watched a documentary of Arabs in Eastern Europe a few months ago actually.

 

The Spanish and Portuguese expelled them. And the Balkans hates Muslims.

 

Is it good?

 

Yugoslavia and Lebanon provide some historical guidance.

 

try it again and we will nuke Germany.

 

Germans don't threaten you. And you'd be nuked back.

 

European countries don't handle immigration as well as North America (Canada & the US), as they have a more nationalist culture.. each country has a tie to a specific ethnicity, and with that the attitude that their particular ethnicity must remain in charge of their state

They're like the Nords in the video game Skyrim

 

the larger problem is the ideology and ethnicity identity of the immigrants, why ignore that?

 

Leftists generally don't care much for pragmatism, hence why they do stupid things that get franco and mussolini in power. Blind, ideologues that want perfect at an instant, never considering that doing things too fast might result in a backlash that will make them loose all their progress. Seemingly, that's what going to happen in europe as they've pushed multiculturalism to much and now nationalist parties are growing like never before.

they never learn, and thank god for that.

Provided we don't change our immigration and assimilation policies and start making good europeans out of them that is. I want neither native nazis nor important nazis, but if we keep going the way we are now we'll get both.

Assimilation is good for maing the new members part of society. adds stability and that stuff.

What I meant is that we cannot deport people who came here legally. If Sweden is stupid enough to let every syrian who enters Sweden live here permantly then we have to accept that we made that our law. The law is supposed to be followed. The only thing we can do is change the law, and that will only affect future immigration.

And there need not be such a thing a 'muslim immigration' to begin with. There's no quota on muslim immigrants that needs to be fullfilled. Just have an immigration policy that gives us skilled people that can assimilate easily and contribute to our countries. Wheter they are muslim or not matters not.

Sweden always changes, what's the problem? Sweden has been influenced by a lot of cultures historically, like germans, danes, finns, dutch, french, english. We have plenty of customs that are from germany, our vocabulary contains many foriegn words, and historically there's been very much immigration from finns, germans, and dutchmen. There's no shame in admitting that no one people is the best at all things. In fact, the best quality to posses is a willingness to adapt what works best, no matter who made it: that was the trait the romans had. In this globalised world, Sweden must take the best where ever it's to be found.

Hence assimilation. That means, make the immigrants into Swedes. Baghdad isn't Swedish.

 

Here's the problem: Their religion is their ideology, and is their law. They teach non-assimilaton and conquering to their young, they will always be muslims first. They don't really even like you. There is nothing to indicate assimilation will happen, unless you assimilate to them.

Turks have been in Germany for a while...who other than muslims does this?

Erdogan Urges Turks Not to Assimilate: 'You Are Part of Germany, But Also Part of Our Great Turkey'

http://www.spiegel.de/international...t-also-part-of-our-great-turkey-a-748070.html

I don't think you guys understand what you have done to yourselves. Bagdad may not be Swedish, but Malmo may as well be Iraqi

 

In which case I expect you'd be happy to expel all the Italians, Jews, Chinese, Hispanics, Indians, Pakistanis, Russians, Swedes, Germans, Poles and everyone else whose various cultures have contributed to what makes America what it is-a nation of immigrants founded upon immigration.

 

Seen Chinatown recently, or Borough Park, Brooklyn?

 

You sure aren't generalising/sarcasm

Yes, I know that's the case for some. And that our current policies are making that group grow, and that it's already a way to big group. But, it's important to remeber that muslims are like us humans, and humans tend to ignore most religious laws. What we have is the government encouraging them to maintain their separate identities, coupled with that the natives are annoyed with them because of the government idiotic polcies, and that's turning them against eachother. And in such situations they redicalise, and embrace and strangthen their own identity even more, and fall victims to extremist rethoric (this applies to both sides btw).

Muslim immigrants can, provided we have senseible policies, be assimilated like any other group. And then they'll tend to be less fundamentalist, like the rest of europe. In short, I'm putting all the blame on the system, not the people.

Know that I'm not defending our current policies. I think they are utterly idiotic, and I think we'd have better policies if a half-dead retarded lobster was put in charge, honestly.

 

They advocated mass immigration and swarmed us with immigrants in the electorate. Their plan at destroying European countries is good.

This is a noble idea but I don't think its realistic. People don't think like that. They just think about feeding their families and getting a good job. Nobody cares about being part of a nation.

What do you mean by making them part of society?

If they aren't assimilated and cause problems like burning cars and forming militias then I have no problem with deportation. If they threaten us.

Secondly the law is wrong. Why should I pay because a bastard like Ted Kennedy changed the law? But I see your point.

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because its good how it is now. Why change it?

They are all Germanic and Christian. Not a lot of difference.

This is silly. You don't need to have immigration to come to learn from them nor do you have to make them citizens. We have the internet. This is also a racist belief as you seem to believe that they are different from you. People are not different. Their thoughts are the same as yours. If they learn something they can just tell you in two seconds.

Okay. but they don't assimilate.

Btw I am 3 percent Swedish and apparently have some Swedish relatives who contacted me on 23andMe.