The irony of the cry for less government

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    Capitalism is the greatest social safety net to help people ever invented and liberal welfare is the worst as USSR, Red China, and East Germany proved by slowly starving 120 million to death. Amazing the way logical reasoning works isn't it?
     
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    Bernie Sanders is. He is an open communist. Govt became biggest by far under Obama and yet Sanders wants it far far bigger still. This is like Stalin with a new 5 year plan after the first failed and Maduro in Venezuela needing even more govt to make up for the failure of the current huge socialist govt. Its never enough for a treasonous liberal.

    Norman Thomas ( socialist presidential candidate)
    The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.
     
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    Plato and Aristotle had 2: socialism and capitalism or govt and freedom Now do you understand?.
     
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    what countries are you talking about???? Do you have any idea???
     
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    so using the Girl Scouts to defend us against Korean ICBM's is better than using the US military???
     
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    Capitalism is the greatest system to help some get their own. But it leaves many to die in its wake.
    I understand you do not care for a great many Americans. That's ok, you are free to feel that way.
    But the rest of us, most, will care for all Americans and lend a helping hand, through our federal Gov't. As the founders intended it. To have a strong country for all, not just the wealthy and privileged.
     
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    Lying does not help in your debate effort.
     
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    Nope, because I don't think you do, or you can't convey it.
     
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    Everyone you mentioned as being better. Do you have memory problems? You posted it a few minutes ago. You can even go back and read your own post, the one you responded to.
     
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    That was your want, not mine.
     
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    china just switched to capitalism and ended 40% of all the poverty on earth by moving 700,000 into the middle class. Capitalism is the most godly force on earth by a factor of 1000!
     
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    you said liberals have better solutions and your example was ending the military industrial complex and using the Girl Scouts. This is why they say liberalism is based in pure ignorance.
     
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    so you are afraid to tell us what countries you are talking about?? I wonder why??
     
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    if you think Plato and Aristotle, Democrats and Republicans don't embody the only 2 political ideas that shape human history tell us why or admit to being a typical liberal with your silence or attempts to change the subject.
     
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    of course if there was a lie the liberal would not be so afraid to point it out!!
     
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    China has stopped its communist gov't? Link please.
    And now God wants the lucky ones to be rich and everyone else to suffer? Not until they die and go to hell, then he will make them suffer.
     
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    Why must you post like a juvenile? I said what countries. You listed them. This is now the 3rd time I have to tell you. The countries you listed. You can go back and read your own post. Don't be so childish.
     
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    actually socialism in USSR and Red China left 120 million to slowly die. Nobody died under capitalism. Notice how the brainwashing got you to repeat an obvious lie. How you must hate the people who did that to you? Do you know who they are?
     
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    you said capitalist health care did not work. I have asked you 5 times now for an example and yet you are afraid to present it? I wonder why?
     
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    its obviously stopped its communist economy and turned it capitalism.

    Here are 3 of the best books with which to begin your education:

    "Capitalism With Chinese Characteristics"


    "How China Became Capitalist"

    In his new book titled Markets over Mao: The rise of private businesses in China, Lardy argues that even though SOEs still enjoy monopoly positions in some key sectors in China, such as energy and telecommunications, their role in the overall economy has diminished significantly over the years. Here are some of the facts he presents to back his thesis: in 2011, China’s state-controlled firms only accounted for about a quarter of the country’s industrial output; and their share in exports has dropped to about 11% today; in 2012, state firms were only responsible for about one-tenth of fixed investment in manufacturing. And in terms of employment, SOEs employed about 13% of China’s labor force in 2011, a dramatic decline compared with the 60% figure recorded in 1999.
     
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    China just moved 700,000 lucky ones from poverty to the middle class thereby eliminating 40% of all the extreme poverty on earth. Godly capitalism is the greatest force for good in human history by a factor of 1000!
     
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    So stick you childish snowflake projections up your politicians backside

    Interesting.. personal insults should I report you?

    Nah I don't do that, but you didn't answer my question, why is the left so sick?

    I am always confused here, I have not been to a doctor in over 35 years except to take employee mandated physical and such..I get a cut .. fishing wire and super glue works fine..


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    I can't answer for an entire group of people I am not a part of. I go to the doc a few times a decade.
    And you started making it personal by projecting on me, something I am not.
     
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    Where is there capitalist health care? You listed countries better than other countries. Even got mixed up and tried to compare a state in the US to a country.
    Give us the list of capitalist health care countries.
    Why did you make of list of countries that were better, but still all those you listed have socialized healthcare?
     
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    that would mean capitalism obviously. Ever heard of USSR Red China East Germany. they were libcommie countries where 120 million slowly starved to death because very very little was affordable. Astounding that this has to be point out.
     

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