The Liberals are going to have a spill

Once again it proved beyond a shadow of a doubt, that politicians don't listen to the Australians citizens, but only act in their own best interest, and not in the best interest of the Australian people, who don't want Tony Abbott as their Prime Minister.

It really makes me wonder who are the "real" puppet masters that pull the strings of our countries politicians and political parties, when the Australian voters are ignored.

Just who in hell controls our country anyway, because its not the politicians or their political parties, that's for sure.

 

It's not the Australian people who don't want Abbott. There is nothing to base that claim on except the bleating of all the labor/Green drones who will continue to blindly repeat whatever they hear coming out of the mouths of their Labor Green idols. Big Tony will still be there at the next election. All this carry on about the liberal leadership was something fomented by Labor and their mates in the media, which is as you know just about all the print and tv media in Australia. Unfortunately even some of the coalition mps have been susceptible to this groundless media pressure.

 

He has an approval rating of 27%.

 

Says who? At what date? So what?

 

39% of the vote didn't want Abbott, can he change colours not to lose another 12%?

 

What a great result, really shows that approx. 67% of Australians don't want Abbott as Prime Minister. That is all of Labor and 40% of Liberals I didn't count the others but I'm sure the greens wouldn't which would raise the against. Also, you would need to be a fool not to realise that of the 61 that voted against a spill a decent number wouldn't be voting for Abbott but voting to retain some sort of dignity in their eyes not wanting to be seen to be doing what they denigrated (and maybe rightfully so) the Labor Party for doing so I would be I think pretty conservative (lol) in my guesstaments. Which is about 80% of Australians DO NOT WANT ABBOTT, but guess what, until he steps in it again (I'll give him 3 weeks) we have to have the most unpopular Prime Minister.

It is a good thing though that they are going to start to govern, I mean they are only half way through their term, we may even get 50% of a government but I have my doubts.

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What danger? Where? Can't see or hear anything!

 

I've been wrong plenty of times but gee it feels good speculating. I reckon Turnbull held firm with his word that he wasn't number crunching and looking for the leadership.......for now anyway! He does now know that the mob are vying for blood.....Abbott's blood!

Will voters take out their frustration on the NSW's Libs? I think most voters were expecting vehemently that the party was going to change leaders. If the NSW libs cop a bashing, Australia will have a new PM directly after, that is if he doesn't stuff up in the meantime. Turnbull or Bishop will come out with all guns blazing, taking no prisoners!

 

Problem Turnbull will have if he takes the leadership is the lack of talent he will have at his disposal to fill ministerial portfolios. There will be no more challenges and if there is it won't be from him.

20% is a big hill to climb in politics. What I am not seeing is Labor on the offensive pushing forward with alternative policy. Keating and Hawke would be relentless. I think this rubbish we are seeing right now says more about the system than it does about the party. Shorten has a magnificent platform right now to seize the initiative and what does he do? Stages a picture opportunity holding a cup of coffee. If I didn't know different looking at that vision I would of thought Plibersek the leader. She held herself as a leader, he followed like a lap dog.

Labor and it's supporters can bluster all they like, but still no alternative policy.

We are Fu#&ing doomed. Despair, despair, despair

 

Abbott not even out of the office and the spill is on again. Listening and caring, he's all waffle our Tony.

"Mr Abbott said there would be no new co-payment plans without the backing of the medical profession"

 

Deluded or liars. Economy is going down.

http://www.theage.com.au/comment/why-the-government-is-a-brake-on-the-economy-20150209-13972i.html

 

It won't matter who is in power, there is a crash imminent. Europe are on the edge, the euro looks decidedly shaky. China is in the midst of contraction, how long this lasts for is anyone's guess. Australia don't have a lot in reserve right now like it did in 07, so things may get even tighter. People will hurt.

I was at a conference in Vegas last month and world economy came up as a conversation point. Many of the economists from Europe believe they need to have a recession in order to rebuild the Euro. They also believe that Europe's push into a emissions trading scheme is losing momentum rapidly. We never got to the why part, as we had to board some buses. I would of loved to of heard why. It seems the support is waning as new nationalist parties are emerging in the big four countries. They are getting traction it seems as Europe struggle to keep a lid on their boiling debt issues.

 

The Australian people are sick 'n' tired of being lied too by politicians. The last poll had Abbott's approval by the Australian people down to 29%. The problem is, we cannot sack these clowns like we could a normal employee who is failing their employment duties and responsibilities.

 

I watched Q&A last night, and only ONE woman had a decent future plan & alternative policy for rebuilding Australia's prosperity. And guess what? She wasn't a politician. All the politicians concentrated on was squabbling between each other like pre-schoolers. Time we rebuilt Australia without politicians, as they have bankrupted our country.

I just sat there shaking my head at both these moronic ALP & LNP politician pass the blame of the countries economic circumstances backwards and forwards onto each other, and never once accepting any accountability or responsibility for what has happened. They have both sold all our countries assets, natural mining resources and farmland to foreigners, and these stupid morons are wondering why the country has NO bloody tax revenue to pay for its social services and infrastructure. How the bloody hell are you expected to get tax revenue, when you don't OWN anything, and you are giving all the large foreign companies that own all your assets, natural resources and farmland massive TAX breaks. If you tried to teach this to children, they would laugh at you, as if it was a joke.

My God, how stupid could these politicians have really been not to realise you can only sell something ONCE, and when you sell it, you no longer get any income or revenue form that item or product.

It really demonstrates the idiots and morons that the Australians people have allowed to manage "their" country.

Politicians would not be able to manage a lemonade stand in a front yard.

 

Tired old Politicians locked in their tired old past, deluding themselves their tired old world shall return and a new age world shall never dawn!

 

This is what gets me! It's obvious that their rhetoric works on certain people on this forum without any factual base, which is simply highly deceptive.
When labor were in government, everyone but the coalition were saying the economy was great and many things were evident of this. Funnily, those on this forum basically ran the line of the coalition without any consideration for the facts. Now you've got a situation where everyone (experts and economists) is saying the economy is falling to pieces but the coalition......and things are evident. Everyone sees the chaos in the party as bad if not worse than labor but the coalition themselves who simply say "we don't want to be like the labor party". People are slowly waking up to these games I believe, which will do some long term damage to the coalition party unless they change their tact to win or stay in government.

The coalition have been pounding our ears how good they have been going in government, which is totally against reality. They shamelessly tell Australians lies but as I said people are slowly waking up to their antics it seems. Hard core tories are saying they are going too far and are damaging people's trust in what they are saying. Others are blissfully ignorant of the fact because they're so stuck on their political leaning.

 

Those South Australian members who Abbott convinced on Sunday to vote for him on Monday because he now had back flipped and was going to tender for submarine construction rather than purchase from Japan, have today realised just how Tony and his deceit has conned them! (See ABC, The Drum)

 

South Australian Liberal senator Sean Edwards revealed on Sunday night that he had vouched support for Mr Abbott in exchange for Adelaide-based shipbuilder ASC being allowed to compete in an “open, competitive tender”.

However Finance Minister Mathias Cormann has repeatedly insisted the government’s policy on procuring the submarines had not changed.

Wonder how Liberal senator Sean Edwards going to react after being blatantly lied to by Abbott to secure his vote?

 

Your the one blaming the 'party' in power for it, when everyone else understands its the economic climate. We rely to a large extent on the mining industry... you remember, that industry the ALP undercut and forced investment to shift overseas, well it's sort of crashed at the moment and so as a result, so have our books. It's got nothing to do with who is in power. What you wonder is an illusion of your own creation because its you that actually is blissfully stuck on your political leaning.

 

It's more complicated then that (sub procurement), your just being confused by the inept media and its sensationalist agendas. You can only do 'open tenders' so far when we are talking about cutting edge military equipment. Military procurement has to be done in phases and for different elements and each one can require a different approach for various reasons.

 

When Government Ministers cant trust their Prime Minister to be telling the truth, how can the people, and especially the people forking up the $Billions in investment to employ people.

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I can see that you are struggling to comprehend what was stated but come to accept that you tend to struggle in this area. However, I will attempt to support you through this. You are acknowledging that the economy is sliding. Now that's great. But what you are failing to understand is that your beloved conservative government is blatantly trying to tell us that it is going great guns, which is one of the many reasons why people are turning away in the droves. Abbott and his cronies state the craziest blatant contradictions we have seen of any government and their proponents in the media such as Allan jones. People and businesses lost confidence in the government at the last budget, which has a huge impact on our economy and will have for some time to come unless there is a change of direction. What these fools have done is spruiked off what great economic managers they are by constantly pounding our ears relentlessly that now things are tough, unlike Howard's era who had funds flowing in left right and centre, actually do not know what to do. They thought that it would be a walk in the park and their self proclaimed title as economic managers would get them across the line.
We've said on here time and time again that Howard's fortunes in terms of the world economy and it's seemingly positive impact on us, are totally different circumstances to play silly political games with now.

Now labor's stimulus saved our nation and actually brought us out head and shoulders above the rest of the world. First AAA rating by worlds 3 leading ratings agencies ever in Australia. We are still miles in front of other countries based on our debt per capita, however, because of Abbott's non stop talking down the economy when it was fantastic has bitten him on the arse now it is actually struggling due to circumstances he has created!

 

Abbott on Sunday successfully deceived SA members of Abbotts team, then moved the spill meeting to next day, so those he lied to did not have time to discover Abbott obtained their vote by deceit!

 

I think it's time for a double dissolution. The cabinet is in a shambles, the governing party is in open warfare. Meanwhile we're not receiving good government. Time for the electorate to speak.

 

Really???? Your normally not so prone to hysteria. Your normally philosophical than this statement indicates. You sound like TV and Das. Have a snickers, you know how you get when your hungry. Lol