The Media will never report this, and the left will never admit it, but...

Why aren't women who have abortions being arrested?? If you think it's murder or homicide or whatever your pet word for the moment is WHY aren't women who have abortions being arrested?


WHY aren't women who are having abortions being arrested?

Why aren't people who perform abortions being arrested?

You can't answer that question because it proves you wrong as usual....


Quote Originally Posted by FoxHastings View Post

No, you showed no proof that a fetus is a person with rights. in that law


And IF a fetus was a "person" that law wouldn't be needed......

 

You are welcome to quote where I said we should not have laws against murder. My logic is simple enough for you to understand. While I personally feel that abortion is wrong, my feelings should never be forced onto others. That is not justice. You are welcome to your opinion as well. Just know that there is absolutely ZERO weight behind any of your words since you have admitted that you are not willing to do more than talk. What is that quote about the difference between wishing and wanting?

I especially like your reply to Fox about "no genuine interest in human life and ways to save it" after admitting your lack of genuine interest!

The reason you speak out against abortion while avoiding any questions about what to do with the children after they are born is that its convenient. The fetus is in someone else's uterus and requires no effort on your part. Once the baby is born and effort is required, you are nowhere to be found. I asked you what you suggest we do with the millions of additional children when we can't find loving homes for those we have now, and you run and hide. If you were sincerely concerned about these precious lives, you would man up and take action.

You may now resume shaking your fist, carrying your pro-life sign, chanting phrases and trying your best to appear you care about human life.

 

Most Excellent Post! Thank you.

 

Justice for who? The child in utero did exactly what to deserve being put to death? Your perspective is skewed. If society is truly concerned about human rights and sanctity of life, society would not treat abortion homicide so flippantly.

The reason you support abortion at will of children in utero but (hopefully) oppose killing born children is because of convenience. It is far more convenient to kill a child you haven't seen outside the womb, but the child is the same human being whether in or out of the womb.

The reason I am not taking your bait to run down the rabbit trail of taking care of born children is that it is a separate issue unrelated to whether or not abortion homicide should be permitted by our society. Too bad you can't comprehend that.

you have no idea whatsoever what I do or do not have a genuine interest in. You have torpedoed your own credibility by trying to demonize people who simply shot down your poorly reasoned arguments on a forum. Too bad.

 

I made it clear that I do not support abortion. You are backpedaling on unborn children being equal to those who have been born. All of a sudden, it is a separate issue??? I did enjoy seeing you contradict yourself in the same post! You can say that dealing with millions more unwanted children is unrelated, but it is not. It is the reason abortion exists in the first place.

I had no idea about your genuine interest until I asked and you admitted that you have taken no action. Now I know for a fact that you are not what you tried to make us believe. I am not trying to demonize you; I am only revealing your actions. (Or lack thereof) This issue does not define you as a person and I would never attack who you are. Who knows, tomorrow, you may wake up and decide to volunteer your time and make a real difference.

The number one reason for abortion is the emotional and physical commitment involved with carrying, giving birth, and raising children.

It is not possible to deal with one issue without the other. Avoiding this issue doesn't make it go away. I have asked you several times how you would deal with this issue, but you have declined to answer.

P.S. I love your avatar!

 

No backpedalling, seems you have a failure to comprehend issue. Responsibility for them financially IS a separate issue from legally being able to kill them at will. Yuk it up, your your assertion is asinine.

The number one reason for abortion is convenience. Obviously!

 

I have corrected you 3 times and you are talking about comprehension? Finances are a factor, but not a main determinate. What is asinine about wanting kids to grow up in a loving home?

You are still avoiding the main issue, which is how these millions of children get brought up. You may have good intentions, but you are part of the problem. (There's a road paved with good intentions. I forgot where it leads!)

Just because you are willing to stand on a soapbox saying "Abortions are bad m'kay!" doesn't mean that you care about their little lives. It is your actions, not your words, that determine your level of concern.

If someone is not willing to take action, how is he different from those who don't care at all?

 

That is NOT the main issue! The main issue is wanton homicides being allowed. Where else in our body of law is this allowed? The decision to kill another human being left up to only one other human being with no oversight whatsoever?
How they may or may not be brought up is certainly no justification for wantonly killing them!!!!

 

"Allowed" is never an issue.

I was raised to take action. Any time I complained, I was asked "What are you doing about it?" I was never allowed to claim to care unless I was willing to get off my a$$ and be part of the solution. You can't have both. So here we go one more time:

Whaler,

What are you doing about it?

 

Explaining that abortion is a homicide and letting women know they are actually committing a homicide when they buy an abortion. You are doing nothing to stem the tide of killings.

 

What exactly are "wanton homicides" and how do they differ from non wanton homicides?

Once again, abortion is not homicide.

 

Well you could have just looked up the word wanton, but a non wanton homicide would be an accidental one.

 

The man who tried to insult my comprehension has just contradicted himself in the same post. Again! Talking is not doing. I have taken part in the solution by bringing some of these precious lives into my home and my heart. It has been the best to ever happen to me. I know you have no experience raising kids, so I don't expect you to understand. Its much easier to take your position because it doesn't involve diapers or tantrums. (Other than your own)

Like me, my kids will never get the luxury of claiming to care about something unless they are doing something about it.

Those who care are doing.
Those who don't are talking.

You may now resume wearing out your keyboard trying to convince others you really care.

 

No contradictions here at all, so maybe your comprehension is flawed.

 

Except for the one where you claim you are doing something while admitting all you are doing is talking. After carrying on about how killing a fetus is the same as killing a born baby only to say its a separate issue when it comes to caring for them yourself. You talking about how having an abortion is for the mothers convenience, when what you are willing to do stops the moment it becomes inconvenient for you.

 

Talking is key, that is how women become aware that the abortion industry's lies about a fetus not being a human being are just that, LIEs.

I truly commend you for taking the initiative and adopting children, but that's the result of someone else's irresponsible behavior (in many cases, not all. I realize parents die, etc... and adoptions are not solely to keep a woman from having an abortion). What makes more sense? To just allow and ignore the irresponsible behavior that created these children, then scramble to find someone else to take on the woman's responsibility who skirted it? Or try to stop the CAUSE of the situation?????

This is much like the idiotic illegal immigration position of many leftists, we don't like the law so we should just ignore it, instead of actually trying to fix it so we can remain a nation of law and order.

 

I think we can both agree that unwanted pregnancy is the result of irresponsible behavior most of the time and measures should be taken to prevent it. As a parent, I have spend many hours discussing these issues with my kids. We have had no pregnancies as of yet. I would like to see more women choosing to deliver rather than abort, but its their decision. They are provided more than enough information to make that decision. There are 2 young ladies in my extended family that ended up "in trouble". Both considered abortion, but decided to bring the child into the world because of the support from the family.

Great news for both of us is that abortion rates are continuing to decline and hit record lows.

If only we could decide who to let in our country!!

 

I usually agree with your posts on nailing down the Anti's on how two-faced they are but...

..most unwanted pregnancies are NOT due to irresponsible behavior.....birth control fails, the best and safest is the most expensive, women are under no obligation to use birth control and to call half the population irresponsible because they have sex and are the ones to get pregnant is ridiculous.

 

NOPE! It is not ridiculous at all. Taking responsibility for one's actions is never ridiculous.

 

Abortions are obviously homicides, legally, rationally, in every way.

 

Again ( and again and again) you have failed to address what I posted and I


NEVER said it was ridiculous to take responsibility for one's actions...

I posted :Quote Originally Posted by FoxHastings View Post

I usually agree with your posts on nailing down the Anti's on how two-faced they are but...

..most unwanted pregnancies are NOT due to irresponsible behavior.....birth control fails, the best and safest is the most expensive, women are under no obligation to use birth control and to call half the population irresponsible because they have sex and are the ones to get pregnant is ridiculous.""



So YOU grossly "misrepresented" what I posted....meaning you have NOTHING.....

 

wow , comprehension....get some.

 

Failure rates for all methods of BC are low when used properly. Condoms are cheap and often free. I have 2 daughters and I have had a lot of long conversations with them about how irresponsible it is to have unprotected sex. They are risking a lot more than an unwanted pregnancy.

My sons, on the other hand, have had to endure many more talks than my daughters. There are women who can't wait to have a baby daddy. (Issue probably needs a thread of its own)

It is not reasonable to expect people to abstain, but it is more than reasonable to expect them to use protection. As a parent, I can't imagine telling my kids anything different.

 

Sorry , but "expecting" people to always do what is best is just not practical as the history of the world shows......it's good your kids have someone to give them the facts....not everyone has that.


The failure rate of Birth Control means nothing if you're the woman for whom it failed..condoms have about a 7 % failure rate and only the most expensive BC is safe and reliable......and women are under NO obligation to use BC.

 

Expectations lead to disappointment. The failure rate you posted is not accurate. (If it were, I would have a lot more kids!) Obligation is in the mind of the obliged. I respect a woman's right to choose BC or not just as I respect her right to choose abortion. My beliefs are strong, but forcing them on others is not freedom.

If abortions were only from BC failure, this forum wouldn't need this section.