The Media will never report this, and the left will never admit it, but...

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  1. CourtJester

    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Thst is why the morning after pill should be cheap and readily available.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Do you think using the morning after pill is a homicide?
     
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    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    If it destroys a zygote, fetus, embryo, then obviously Yes it does.
     
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    Yes, 'expectations" lead to disappointment, that is why I posted """Sorry , but "expecting" people to always do what is best is just not practical as the history of the world shows""".

    It doesn't matter if the failure rate I stated was dead on accurate or not... failure happens DESPITE your personal life.


    And, since abortion is legal it doesn't matter WHY a woman gets pregnant.

    Yes, even if abortion was only from BC failure this forum would still be needed because there are always those who want to punish women for having sex in ways they don't approve of .

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    You think a zygote, fetus, and embryo are all present the day after !!!!!!!!!???!!!!!!!!!!!:roflol:
     
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    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    Yes, it should be covered by health insurance and readily available over the counter....but no woman should be obligated to use it...
     
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    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    Uh, the fact that you don't speaks VOLUMES!!!!!!
     
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    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think we can agree that person freedom should always supersede what others believe they should be doing. I will tell you and anyone I care about that if you have unprotected sex, you are being irresponsible. We are only human and will sometimes do irresponsible things in the heat of passion. The act is irresponsible; not the person. (Smart people do stupid things.) Condoms are effective 98% of the time when used properly.

    You seem to be stuck on the word "obligated", did someone make this claim? Maybe I missed it.
     
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    I agree, I think we can agree that person freedom should always supersede what others believe they should be doing.


    I bring up women not being obligated to use BC because they aren't.

    Sometimes the emphasis gets aimed at "women should use birth control" and all our problems will be solved. They won't...and just as women have the freedom to choose abortion or child birth they also, like men, have the right to choose not to use BC (personal freedom). That does NOT make women irresponsible, it makes them human with the personal freedom to do as they choose. If they get pregnant, again, they have the personal freedom as to what would be the responsible solution.

    Buying a car isn't irresponsible, driving drunk or never changing the oil is irresponsible.
     
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    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    Yeah that must be why we don't have any laws, but wait.......We do!

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    Buying a car you can't afford is incredibly irresponsible!
     
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    You're "misrepresenting" again.

    I NEVER mentioned buying a car you can't afford.......WHERE did you "see" that??? In a dream?:roflol:


    Here's the post:

    Quote Originally Posted by FoxHastings View Post



    Buying a car isn't irresponsible, driving drunk or never changing the oil is irresponsible."""""



    Sorry if you can't understand analogies....:)
     
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    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    LOL, hilarious. You just cannot see the parallel to abortion being buying a kid you can't afford, oh man that is rich. My side is hurting. LOL

     
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    She ended up with almost 3,000,000 more votes than Trump.

    So it's seems that your idea is just bull(*)(*)(*)(*).
     
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    How do you feel about spilling seed.
     
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    WAN Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Sperm is a cell, not an organism.
     
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    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    NOPE! More states voted for Trump and voter fraud was rampant, which normally means there were a lot of fraudulent votes cast for the Hildabeast (Michelle Obama's term for her, not mine). It was likely a landslide of epic proportions once the fraud is cleaned out of the mix.
     
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    I feel that it has no relevance here at all. a fertilized egg, in human beings at least , is a human being. Just as a cup of flour is not a cake, a sperm call is not a human being and an unfertilized egg is not a human being. Your apparent position here is an ignorant position that has been batted around by people who just don't think very deeply into the issue for a while now, but it is just ignorant.
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    A cell is not an organism?

    or·gan·ism
    ˈôrɡəˌnizəm/
    noun
    an individual animal, plant, or single-celled life form.
    synonyms: living thing, being, creature, animal, plant, life form
    "fish and other organisms"
    the material structure of an individual life form.
    "the heart's contribution to the maintenance of the human organism"
    a whole with interdependent parts, likened to a living being.
    "the upper strata of the American social organism"
    synonyms: structure, system, organization, entity
    "a complex political organism"
     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    Name calling is the true last refuge of the uneducated. But feel free to explain just why you think a fertilized egg is a human being. Language, independant existance, a soul, religion, ability to think, ability to respond to a stimulus? What is your criteria for humanity?

    And exactly what makes a fertilized egg in a human a human being while a fertilized egg ouside a human would not be a human being. This should be hilarious.
     
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    Didn't call names, irrational defensiveness is sign of a poor debating position and a lack of support for what you are stating. If you don't like your positions being called ignorant, simply don't post ignorant positions.

    Anyway, the fact remains the seed analogy is ignorant for the very reasons I have previously stated. Read some human biology if you don't know why a fertilized egg (zygote) is different than an unfertilized egg. Or you can just yuk it up and remain in the dark.

    But in a nut shell, an unfertilized egg will not, and simply can not, grow and move through the stages of human growth. Biologically speaking, every human being begins at fertilization, that is the catalyst that begins a new human being. Even Federal law recognizes this (Read the Unborn Victims of Violence Act, which provides for homicide charges to be brought against someone who kills a child in utero AT ANY STAGE OF DEVELOPMENT)


     
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    A fertilized egg is an organism that 1. contains human DNA and 2. is alive. Hence, it's human life.
     
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    He seems to think that is funny? HMMM, odd sense of humor.

     
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    CourtJester Well-Known Member

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    You forgot to expain why a fertilized egg in the womb is a human while one outside the womb is not.
     
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    zyglote
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    human being
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    Notice any differences?
     
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    So is my sperm.
     
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    Sperm is a cell, not an organism.
     

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