The most damning thing I've seen so far in the report.

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Lee Atwater, Apr 18, 2019.

  1. Lil Mike

    Lil Mike Well-Known Member

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    If this is the "most damning thing," then wrap it up, it's all over.

    You've been fooled by the media and yourself.
     
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    You know the Dems are not going to move on. I think they are crazy enough to run in 2020 on Trump being a Russian spy!

    Trump couldn't have been luckier than to have his opposition go insane.
     
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    AltLightPride Well-Known Member

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    I think their strategy is based on psychological abuse. They'll keep hammering the same "Nazi Russia" BS for years until people cry out "Make it stop!". And then they say "We'll make it stop if you vote for us".
     
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    Reading through this thread has been on the entertaining side. Here you are, laying out what is in the Mueller report. And the Republicans are responding by pretending things are other than they are. They are even going so far as to claim the report makes Democrats look bad.

    It is not surprising that Evangelical types make up the core of Trump's base. Once they get stuck on a belief, apparently their brains prevent contrary information from entering their thought stream. But then, you should check out their media. They are telling a different story.

    This is a fine time to document the clear differences that Republicans see. The clear dishonesty of it all. Social scientists should be in their hey day about now? Talk about public manipulation on a grand scale! And all out in the open
     
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    Yes! This!

    The most significant conclusion of this investigation is that Russia wanted Trump to be the U.S. President because they knew his divisiveness and incompetence would benefit them, and they worked to make that happen. Trump voters voted for Russia's candidate, and Russia does not have our best interests in mind. If Trumpettes would get their heads out of Sean Hannity's butthole to get some fresh air, they would realize they were inadvertently (some, anyway) party to the greatest political fraud of the 21st century.

    People who continue to defend this president are fools.
     
  6. yguy

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    Please, they were already there. They just acted out more because he was so openly contemptuous of them.
    And you suppose the Mueller team was competent to draw such a conclusion because...?
    And they calculated that that would benefit them more than Hillary's treasonous inclinations how, exactly?
     
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    It is over for most normal people. It will never be over for the democrats.
     
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    Not Illegal.
     
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    Barr is looking more and more like an Attorney General. Returning the Of ce to what it should be. Holder was an Obama man, a liberal that did noithing when Commey broke the law, when Clinton committed felonies or when Wieners and his wife broke the law.

    Trump could be doing more to benefit citizens and the country if not for the media and Democrats lies
     
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    “The report on coordination is extremely detailed with only modest redactions – painting a far less flattering picture for Trump than the attorney general has offered andrevealing knew details about interactions between Russians and Trump associates.”

    So Barr’s report had modest redactions and didn’t paint and good picture, I’m confused because it seems like you like Barr 1 minute then don’t the next.
     
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    And why didn't Mueller examine those servers?

    Oh yeah, because Hillary and team destroyed them.
     
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    Trumps team expected to benefit from Hillarys leaked classified emails being put on the internet?

    You dont say...

    You, too, would assume their campaign would benefit, yes? I do.
     
  13. Robert

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    You must watch PBS for your news. They are the shame of public TV
     
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    The same reason "Wing Man" Holder sold his soul for a degenerate like Obama. The report was a work product of the executive branch. There is nothing in the law that says it has to be released at all. There are laws against releasing Grand Jury Testimony to the public. Apparently, after a $35M witch hunt that ignored crimes that led to the 'investigation' in the first place, you think the criminals should have the only word on a report that found no crimes. The criminals had their turn --- it's now time to make them accountable.
     
  15. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Donor

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    So........now that Billy the Bagman's, the now disgraced AG, false narrative has completely fallen apart, is impeachment back on the table? I don't know..........but I know it should be.

    There are so many refutations to Trumpist's lies and denials of truth in the report it's breathtaking. Here are just a few.........

    Russian government interfered in 2016 presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion.
    Russia investigation began as a result of Papadopoulos' encounter with the Australian ambassador.
    Don ordered McGahn to fire Mueller, McGahn refused, Don told McGahn to lie about it.
    Don said Mueller probe is the end of my presidency.
    Some attempts at obstruction were unsuccessful only because aides disobeyed orders.
    The OLC opinion on indictment DID influence Mueller, contrary to Barr's lie.
    If a more thorough investigation was possible evidence of obstruction would have been found.
    Don said he "could not recall" 36 times in answering Mueller questions. Mueller says answers were inadequate.
    Mueller rejected argument that Trump is shielded from obstruction laws.
    Mueller’s team says evidence about Trump’s actions and intent presents difficult issues that prevent us from conclusively determining that no criminal conduct occurred.
    Sister Sarah admitted to lying to the country about Comey.
    The report shows Trump knew he was lying when he called some media reports "fake."

    When Don became prez he took an oath to uphold the Constitution and the laws of the land. Instead, he has tried to subvert them at every turn. He's the exact opposite of what a prez should be.
     
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  16. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Donor

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    The most laughable thing Billy the Bagman said yesterday was that Trump and the WH cooperated fully with the investigation. It very much sounded like a line Don insisted on being included..........mostly because of how outrageously false it was. It's just the kind of Orwellian line, being the opposite of the truth, Don is so good at giving.
     
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    He is obviously Trump's personal attorney....which I why Trump chose him.
     
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    “This is the end of my presidency.”



    Which was an obvious admission of guilt.
     
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    mmmmmm-nothingburger.jpg
     
  20. yguy

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    Quite the imagination you have there. :smile:
     
  21. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Donor

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    “The conclusion that Congress may apply the obstruction laws to the President’s corrupt exercise of the powers of office accords with our constitutional system of checks and balances and the principle that no person is above the law,” Mueller’s team wrote.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Donor

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    Not really, but I can read.
     
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    Hey! There is a straw! Grab it! Grab it!
    It is not illegal for a foreign national to help, per se, a campaign.
     
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    Wasn’t Mueller's job
     
  25. Robert

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    Every comment like the above pleases me since I know they believe what happened is Trump is exonerated. The moaning is clear.
     

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