The NCAA football-playoff system

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  1. reallybigjohnson

    reallybigjohnson Banned

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    Things like this make me appreciate my crappy Trac-fone so I can't fall for stuff like that.
     
  2. JavisBeason

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    it is what it is.... that ESPN sound everyone knows. that's the sound the app makes when it has breaking news. Since I have it set to only update for FSU news.... as you can imagine, for this entire season... everytime I heard that "dew-do-dew.... dew-do-dew" sound.... I cringed


    it's like a Pavlove dog experiment. Associate eating with a bell ringing, and you can make a dog salivate

    Associate bad news with that sound.... I cringe even when I hear it on TV.... lol
     
  3. pol meister

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    The NDSU Bison take on the Illinois State Redbirds tomorrow for the FCS Playoff Championship at 1:00 ET, on ESPN 2. The Bison are going for their 4th straight national title. I'm an NDSU alum so I'm obviously biased on this one.

    I'm thinking Oregon will win vs. OSU on Monday, hope it's a good game.
     
  4. sec

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    to the Urban haters and deniers, as I've said, he is the difference maker and would be the reason why OSU could beat Bama and the coach who could stop the single-dimension ducks. Take away Mariota from running and you take away their offense

    So, here we have Meyer who had to rebuild the program and where are they today? Any more doubters about his coaching ability?

    IMO, he would not transition to the NFL but I bet a few teams are talking to his agent
     
  5. JavisBeason

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    I love it because all the gator fans are upset he won...


    but think about this.... the year OSU went 6-6 and faced UF in a crap bowl game that UF won. They made the Urban Meyer hire right before the game and immediately, OSU fans were saying "self impose a bowl ban now" while I agree they should have... at that point, it was already too late.

    OSU athletic director dropped the ball and probably cost OSU a title that year because the next season, NCAA handed down a year bowl ban and OSU went undefeated. They knew a bowl ban was coming. Sacrifice the 6-6 bowl for the National championship.....

    That was the year ND went undefeated and Bama had a loss to aTm


    had the AD self imposed during that transition year, knowing they were 6-6 with an interim coach.... they could have played ND for the title that next year.


    Urban Meyer could have 4 titles in 8 years.


    Braxton Miller is transferring..... no way he starts next year at OSU where they are already going to have a qb battle when #2 gets healthy
     
  6. kronikcope

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    What a great day to be a Buckeye.

    OSU just dominated in the trenches on both sides of the ball. OSU just looked like a far more physical team.

    This team looks to be set up at another run at a title next year...before the game the #1 RB recruit in the country in the 2016 class committed to OSU. The rich get richer.
     
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    could you imagine the score if they didn't make the bonehead fumbles?

    IMO, had Bama been the one to play Oregon I believe the outcome would have been the same but not in as dominant a fashion. Meyer is not as stubborn to change as Saban and he was the right guy to show the world what a well coached team with good players could do to the mighty Ducks.
     
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    you have to respect the coach regardless of where he is. Who knows about the QB situation. If Jones declares, then Miller might stay put. Some might say how can Jones enter the draft after 3 starts but Big 10 championship to get them to playoffs, defeat Bama in playoffs and then stuff the Ducks

    that's a pretty good resume

    Maybe Miller will go to LSU? Lord knows they need a QB
     
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    Yep. If they didn't turn the ball over 4 times it would have been a blow out. You're probably right about Alabama. Id give them a edge over Oregon.

    3 years in at OSU and Meyer has the team he wants. I can't sing his praises enough this morning.
     
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    Hate to say "I told you so", but... The PAC 12 was highly overrated this year (again). TCU belonged in the CFP, but FSU didn't.
     
  11. sec

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    He's in a good place right now

    Big school
    Big program
    generous boosters
    and I bet his agent is getting a few calls right now from the pro's just gauging interest

    But, with the arrival of Harbaugh, the rivalry game is going to get hyped and will be a big money game
    The Big 10 conference needs him to stay put
     
  12. kronikcope

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    I don't think Meyer is going anywhere anytime soon. I guess he's going to be getting a block O tattoo in a few days.
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...ed-tattoo-ohio-state-national-title/21678291/
     
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    meh.... specualation.... undefeated in a power 5 should ALWAYS afford you a spot in the top 4.


    TCU lacked one critical part of that equation.... the pesky loss.
     
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    I agree. Everyone knew that FSU was weak this year, including the CFP Committee. That's why we got the weird week in which they bumped TCU above FSU. Still, it's difficult to demote a team when they don't lose a game -- even if they didn't face any quality opponents during the regular season.

    Postseason Power 5 Conference Rankings:
    #1 B1G, SEC, BIG XII
    #2 PAC 12, ACC
     
  16. kronikcope

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    Agreed about the undefeated part...But IMO TCU would have rolled FSU. Everyone knew Oregon was going to destroy FSU before the game. I would have given TCU a decent chance at beating Oregon.
     
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    TCU's real problem was losing to Baylor.
     
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    Yep. Maybe next year they can put together a season to get themselves into the CFP.
     
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    Winning your conference is obviously a helpful metric.
     
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    what are you talking about... we were bumped down below Bama on a bama bye week..... why would it be weird one time, but not another.

    it was what it was. Defense killed us, for sure. Losing Pruitt from the 13 season showed in all the teams we faced.... I would hope a DC is a priority for FSU this offseason, but I doubt it. 1 loss makes it hard to justify firing a guy. Of course... I don't want our DC fired either. He was a great LB coach in 13 under pruitt.... just not quite there as a DC.


    Either way. My only argument against the FBS playoff is.... use the BCS to determine the rankings and seedings. my only issue with the BCS was it couldn't figure out #2 and #3 when both had a loss, or both were undefeated. take 2004 for instance.


    3 undefeated teams, USC, OU and AU. a playoff would have worked fine with the USC#1, OU#2, and AU at #3 (I can't recall #4)

    AU got left out

    Same with the year that OSU/Stanford and Bama all had one loss and Bama got the nod to rematch LSU.... 1-4 was pretty clear..... but OSU and Stanford were left on the outside looking in (OSU went on to beat Stanford in a BCS bowl)

    as opposed to rule by committee..... There is a reason true democracy doesn't work....


    but overall, I agree with the final playoff picture this year (the seeding was off, I think) but in the end, the correct team won.... a team that wouldn't have had a chance in the prior 2 team system. And that's tough to admit since it was arguably, my team that lost the most..... and Bama.....

    - - - Updated - - -

    possible, but the same could be said about TCU over Bama..... don't lose a game, and you don't have to wonder.
     
  21. NightSwimmer

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    The BCS top 2 in 2004 was controversial, but the top 2 in 2011 was not. The only problem that people had with that game was #SECENVY.
     
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    it wasn't because you didn't have to play OSU.... and wasn't controversial to any Bama fan, I'm sure.


    2011 was the best argument for a 4 team playoff during the BCS era.

    1. LSU
    2. Bama
    3. OSU
    4. Stanford

    Bama and LSU may have ended up still meeting in the finals and Bama may still have won.... but it gives other 1 loss teams the same chance OSU got this year


    2004 was a good argument for 3 teams.... same with 2005 when LSU and USC decided to split the title (I think LSU was the real champ) but they had an argument that never got settled.;;;; so you have two teams that claim a title in an era that said "no more split titles"

    I think, had this year been a BCS era season... it would have been a huge argument for a playoff again.

    Having 3, one loss teams that don't play each other or have common opponents and you arbitrarily pick one of them to play the undefeated team is controversial if your team is left out.
     
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    Meh. Even if we had a 64 team playoff, the fans of the #65 team would still whine that it just wasn't fair.
     
  24. kronikcope

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    I'm sure you've got a big ol' SEC tattoo somewhere. Don't worry, the SEC will be back, they just need to recruit some of that B1G speed. Lol
     
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    Off-topic:
    I watched the recent championship game on-line as I don't have cable/satellite TV. ESPN offered a "spidercam" version...basically overhead camera angles with no play-by-play, commercials, or instant replay...just the noise of the game for audio. It was about as close to being at a game as one could reasonably expect. I would have to say I wouldn't mind this option as a permanent way to watch football. Credit to ESPN for providing a myriad of ways to view the game with or without play-by-play on-line without having to be a cable/satellite TV subscriber.
     

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