The Necessity of Abortion

Discussion in 'Abortion' started by ImNotOliver, Jul 24, 2018.

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  1. chris155au

    chris155au Well-Known Member

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    Hang on a second - you mean the ones that are raped can have a gun to avoid being raped?
     
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    You appear intent on confusing yourself.
     
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    No. The ones that haven't been raped can protect themselves with a gun.

    This isn't difficult, yet you seem to struggle to understand.
     
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    Every human ever born was a parasite in the womb.

    It lived off another organism, it was a parasite.

    Parasite is a scientific term for an entity that lives off another, it isn't always an insult ...it has to do with science and facts..

    And whether a poster had children or not , or loved them or not (that has nothing to do with anything) ….. they were all parasites at one time..
     
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    Its not "bad" its just illegitimate in a way that a non-rape baby can never be.

    Who said anything about sexual enjoyment? I'm sure that there have been lots of women who haven't enjoyed sex that they ended up getting pregnant through!

    I don't. Since when did this become about "punishment?" In order to receive punishment, someone has to have done something illegal don't they? I don't think pregnant women have done anything illegal! They've done the most amazingly beautiful and special thing in the world! Why would we want to "punish" that?
     
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    Absolutely this is a natural death. Nature dictates that the food chain is how the animal kingdom survives. And the lion used only its natural body to kill the beast, right? Sorry, but you're going to have to steer away from the ANIMAL analogies if you want to be taken seriously.

    And this is similar to the lion killing the beast how exactly?

    No, I think it is natural. And you haven't been able to say something that you think is UNnatural.
     
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    That is true, and the ones who have been raped can protect themselves with a gun from future rapes. However, I'm just not seeing how it is relevant to the abortion discussion.
     
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    I pity those that missed out on the love, warmth, happiness, strength, and joy that a proud, unashamed parent receives from their children.

    It's hard to believe a parent could have such an empty soul that they could actually see their own children as parasites, when the children give so much more to the parents than they take.
     
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    A fetus is a fetus. It is not legitimate nor illegitimate, it is neither innocent nor non-innocent.
    The sex act that caused a fetus has nothing to do with what the fetus is or isn't.


    OK, I'll state another way, a fetus is exactly the same, an abortion is exactly the same whether it came about due to rape or consensual sex.

    Banning abortion due to consensual sex is punishing women for having consensual sex especially if an exception is made for rape.


    Not necessarily, many people are punished when they have done nothing wrong.

    Becoming pregnant is not doing something wrong so women shouldn't be punished by being forced to gestate.







    Then why would you want them punished by being forced to gestate?

    I have no idea why you would want to force them to do anything.

    It is up to the pregnant woman to decide if it's a "beautiful and special thing" for her, not you, not the government, just the pregnant person.

    For some women it's obviously NOT a "beautiful special thing"...why do you think women have sought out abortions for the last thousand years ??

    ...it's her life, her body, she should have the same rights everyone else has..
     
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    Had you been paying attention to the posters I was responding to, the discussion included using abortion as birth control, as other birth control was ineffective.

    Is there anything else I can break down for you?
     
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    Out of the mouth of babes comes true wisdom!
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    Are you saying that humans should stop having sex?

    :) How futile and frustrating it must feel.....:)
     
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    Humans should take responsibility for their actions.

    Humans should love their children.
     
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    And what does that have to do with rape?
     
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    Are you trying not to understand?

    You don't get the connection between self defense and rape?
     
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    Brilliant post.

    Rights come from God, not men (or women).
     
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    If you wish for me to answer a question of yours, you might first want to set it forth.
     
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    I'm not sure it was you I was talking to, but ok.. Anyone can respond.

    Do you have children? If so:
    1. When did you start loving them?
    2. Were your children parasites?
     
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    If you really believe that an unborn child is merely "1/10th of an ounce," you must be referring to its existence very early.

    Certainly, a six-month-old fetus (or "unborn child") does not weigh so little.

    And it very much resembles any other human being.

    So here is a question: Do you support the "right" to infanticide--say, for six-month-old babies--if they should be deemed an inconvenience to their parents?

    If not, then why not?
     
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    For the record, I have had no children. (In fact, I was almost 39 when I first married.)
     
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    Questerr said:
    No, women always had equal rights. They finally forced oppressive men to recognize them.




    No, rights do not come from god.

    You are free to believe that but rights were created by humans....

    The poster you replied to was correct....""No, women always had equal rights. They finally forced oppressive men to recognize them.""
     
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    Of course not...because once BORN persons have rights..

    I wish just once an Anti-Choicer would explain why they think abortion is the same as killing a BORN person...
    or why they think that anyone who is for women's right to their own body means they believe in killing BORN persons...it is NOT a logical conclusion.
     
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    You're missing out.

    Children are the most wonderful blessing imaginable.
     
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    In America, rights come from God.

    Leftist Dictators of Cuba, Russia, China, etc would agree with you
     
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