"The New Normal"

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  1. MrTLegal

    MrTLegal Well-Known Member

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    The mask that you should be required to wear, when you are unable to maintain reduces your ability to transmit the virus from around 70% to around 1.5% if both you and the non-infected person are wearing masks.
     
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    The 99% claim is extremely dubious. Roughly 15% of the infected require hospitalization - according to the latest CDC data.

    Of those, roughly 1/3 will die.

    That is a ratio that is roughly the same as ebola.
     
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    Not what I said. Read it again. Take as many times as you need to take for my words "as a proof" to sink in. You are completely failing Logic 101.

    No, you are simply committing numerous logical fallacies. Right now, you keep building the same Strawman over and over again (which is an Argument by Repetition Fallacy).

    Because I'm not willing to commit logical fallacies left and right like you are willing to do. You are not only making use of an invalid proof, but you are also making use of a false source.

    A friend of mine (on other forums) has a wonderful "mantra list" that he keeps and updates on a regular basis, and I might start making use of that list here due to how repetitive your argumentation has become. In this case, the relevant mantras would be Mantra 4f ("use of credential or 'expert' as authoritative source, or 'expert' worship") and Mantra 39b ("proof by 'expert' or credential").

    Mantra 4f.

    What "pandemic"? The word 'epidemic' arose out of the times of the Black Plague which wiped out ~40% of Europe's population. COVID-19 hasn't even wiped out a fraction of a percent of any country's population (and that's only IF we accept the bogus numbers being reported)... A fraction of a percent is nowhere near 40%... not even near 20%, or 10%, or 5%... It's statistically insignificant...

    Bogus study. It is not possible to know how long someone "should have, could have, would have" lived (under ANY circumstance or set of circumstances). There is no "could've, would've, should've" in science.

    Dismissed as non-scientific complete and utter bogus.
     
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    Well, if you shrink the denominator far enough, you could come up with a death rate of 100% for covid; but if you make the denominator the total population of the US, the death rate will likely be less than 1%, probably about 0.06%.

    Better to look at things in the aggregate, than in the minutia of those most vulnerable.
     
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    Your example of the "real normal" just got reversed by AMC.
     
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    I am looking at the totality of the CDC data regarding all confirmed cases, hospitalizations and deaths.

    You simply cannot rationally rely upon using the entire US population as your denominator because the entire US population has not been exposed to the virus.
     
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    Such is the nature of a tyranny upon those who dare to permit freedom and liberty; and upon those without the resolve to oppose the tyranny.
     
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    And in this particular case, that group is synonymous with "rejects public health best practices."
     
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    Fear mongering is not a "public health best practice". Neither is tyranny.
     
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