The NRA

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  1. Tim15856

    Tim15856 Well-Known Member

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    The link I posted said that after the NRA lobbied to stop the 1996 ban, you guys passed a law to ban such gun groups from interfering again.
     
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    Tim15856 Well-Known Member

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    So, our constitutional rights are silly crap for suckers? Glad you guys are on the other side of the world from us.
     
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  3. Bush Lawyer

    Bush Lawyer Well-Known Member

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    Can you save my tired eyes and link it again with a quotation of the part you are referring to, please?
     
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  4. Bush Lawyer

    Bush Lawyer Well-Known Member

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    Don't misquote me please. That is naughty, very naughty.
     
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    Tim15856 Well-Known Member

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    https://observer.com/2019/03/nra-new-zealand-gun-reform-australia-intervention/
     
  6. Tim15856

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    I did not change one word in your quote.
     
  7. Bush Lawyer

    Bush Lawyer Well-Known Member

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    That ban came into place at the end of 2018.......three weeks after these One Nation clowns were trying to harvest some NRA/Koch cash...and the irony (if you can call it that) is that Pauline Hanson, their Boss....voted IN FAVOUR OF THAT BAN!!! You made a refernce to 1996 and that is what misled me.
     
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  8. Bush Lawyer

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    This is what you posted.

    Show me where I said that.
     
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    Where are these so called “natural born” rights written down?
     
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    This "natural born rights" fallacy never seems to disappear no matter how many times it is debunked.

    The ONLY rights we have are the ones we have given ourselves through the Constitution. One of the most important roles of the Government OF the People and FOR the People is to UPHOLD the individual rights of We the People.

    That being said NO RIGHTS are absolute!

    ALL rights can be REGULATED by the government of We the People.

    For instance the right to own a firearm does NOT extend to convicted felons serving time. In some states like Florida a former felon was NOT allowed to vote in elections. That was overturned in the 2018 election but the GOP is still obstructing it. Free speech rights do not extend to cover incitement to violence and libel/slander.

    Those who push the fallacy of "natural born rights" erroneously believe that the Government of the People should not be allowed to regulate things like Universal Background Checks. That is patently absurd but that is what we are dealing with here.
     
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    So.....where are you? You, who actually believe that it is your natural born, God-given right to possess a firearm.
     
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    I have no idea. But they did get in bed (take that any way you want) with a Russian spy that funnelled Russian governement cash into the GOP by laundering it through the NRA.

    That's why they've been incharactsically silent for the past few months.
     
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    Except for the fact that such was proven to be factually incorrect.
     
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    I dunno about that Russian spy stuff but it is noticeably quiet in a Thread titled 'NRA' where I am attacking the NRA and there is almost.........silence.

    Hello! Anybody home?
     
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    All that is had on the part of yourself for attacks on the NRA is nothing but claims and speculation, no actual hard evidence.

    The delusional ramblings of transient individuals with undiagnosed and untreated mental impairments may be unpleasant to hear, but that does not mean they need to be rebuked and debunked when heard.
     
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    Dear me. That's a very long bow you are drawing there, Pilgrim.

    Are you one of those who believe in this so called natural born, God-given right to possess firearms? Don't be afraid to say so, now.

    (And my attacks on the NRA are well sourced with links I have posted. It'll take some two hours of your time to see the evidence so that leaves you with two choices. 1. Watch the videos. 2. Accept without question that the evidence which substantiates what I say is found in those two videos. Up to you.)
     
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    Mother Jones database? Really? Tell us how they measure that.

    Here is the homicide rate from the FBI.

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    What is claimed to be evidence on the part of yourself, is not actually evidence. If what was had on the part of yourself was actual evidence to prove, beyond reasonable doubt, that the NRA was indeed meddling in the elections of foreign nations, it would not take two hours for two different videos to lay it out in clear, clean, concise terms. The NRA as an organization is simply not that intelligent.

    Beyond that particular matter. If foreign individuals are indeed making efforts to interfere in the elections of the united states, it would only be fair for the united states to return the favor and follow such an example. The united states is presently being flooded by illegal aliens who are being welcomed with open arms and provided with identification that would allow them to participate in local elections, with efforts to determine the president of the united states by the popular vote alone, which is nothing more than mob mentality.

    If other countries do not wish for foreigners to have the ability to interfere in their local elections by introducing foreign matters, they should close their borders and deny entry to foreign individuals.
     
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    If there is a problem with NRA interfering in your government then it's up to your government to handle it. Thankfully they are an intervention in our government to thwart unconstitutional laws brought about by emotional mob rule.

    NRA has support from the American public that believe in the right to bear arms. It's a lobby for the people. Demonizing the NRA is really not your place.

    Look where New Zealand is....They have one incident and react with an extreme law. That is very politic and extremely stupid. Too bad New Zealnd doesn't have an organization that works for the behalf of your law abiding and responsible regular Joe's who believe in the right to protect themselves and their family.
     
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    Naw,...... Ya gotta go back another 20 years,......

    It was JFK that federalized mental health in America,.......

    Prior to that, it was a State responsibility,.....
    'n JFK didn't like the way Massachusetts treated his moronic sister,....
     
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    So, again, they might speak to people and those people might make choices for themselves!!! O the huge manatee!!!
     
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    Ayuh,...... Wrong again,...... It was JFK that federalized mental health in the USA,.....

    By 1980, Up here in the northeast, the State mental institutions were already shuttered, 'n many already torn down,.....
     
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    Sorry you have posted murder rate not the mass shooting rate
     
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    You posted a Mother Jones database, I posted from the FBI. Mother Jones is not an official entity and you can bet it is based on that ridiculous database started by a Reddit user.
     
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    Mass shootings in the united states are extremely rare compared to the largest source of firearm-related homicides, which are single-party incidents where there is only one perpetrator and one victim. Compared to such, the number of victims to mass shootings is extremely minute, bordering on statistically insignificant.
     

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