The origins of AIDS and Ebola

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  1. DarkSkies

    DarkSkies Well-Known Member

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    Please remember that one doesn't have to be alive during the first occurrence of a virus to be able to weaponize that same virus.
     
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    Now that the target has officially moved (from HIV being a man-made disease to one that already existed but was 'weaponized'), it would be wonderful if there was actually some evidence of that weoponization. And Gallo taking out a patent or the fact that there are natural resources in Africa do not count as evidence.
     
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    A weaponized virus is literally man-made. It is not a naturally occurring virus, but one developed in labs.
     
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    OK, then HIV is not man-made or weaponized. Glad we are on the same rational page.
     
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    We are not. The weaponized form of HIV is NOT an evolved form of the SIV. The manipulation of the disease found in chimps gave way to the new HIV.
     
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    Well, you run with that if it brings meaning to your life. It is on the same level as the moon landing hoax theory and the reptilian elite theory.
     
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    1. The AIDS conspiracy was started by the KGB.

    2. Ebola didn't go away between those years, there were outbreaks. When you use Google, click on 'Search Tools' then click on 'Any time' and choose 'Custom Range'.
     
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    The monkeys they eat manufactured both Ebola and Aid's.
     
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    Here is a copy of an article that ran in the London Times (May 11, 1987) Titled "Smallpox vaccine 'triggered Aids virus' by Pearce Wright:

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    If that is hard to read, here is a transcription of it:
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    Here is a small propaganda piece for recruiting homosexual men into participating in an hepatitis B vaccine experiment.
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    My opinion is that HIV does not exist, and any virus may not exist either.

    Regarding HIV, I deeply studied the subject 15 years ago, reaching the conclusion that an Australian scientists named Perth Group are right: the existence of HIV is not proven, because purification of the alleged virus has never been achieved, and this is a necessary (not sufficient) condition.

    You can see who the Perth Group are and what claim here:

    https://hiv-may-not-exist.blogspot.com/2016/03/who-perth-group-are.html

    There are other dissidents more well-known, like a retrovirologist named Peter Duesberg, who claims HIV exists but is a passenger virus not causing any disease, but I certainly think he is wrong. It is important to discern his position is completely incompatible with Perth Group's position: the virus exists or not exist, both things are not possible, so if you are going to study this matter it would be necessary to finally intuit who is right, and discard the other. To take such decision I suggest to resort to this link:

    http://www.virusmyth.com/aids/award.htm

    There you can find a lot of technical discussion between dissidents regarding HIV existence.

    Regarding any other virus, I am not sure, but an important mainstream retrovirologist named Robin A Weiss affirms that if the Perth Group were right, then any virus with a lipid envelope, like small pox, influenza, measles, mumps or yellow fever, would not exist either. He used this argument to discredit the Perth Group, but I suspect that actually all viruses could be a science delirium. There is a book written by Janine Roberts titled Fear of the Invisible that give me that impression. A review of the book and additional information can be read here:

    http://www.davidpratt.info/roberts.htm

    For me it is now very difficult to believe in such tiny particles, specially alleged HIV, causing any disease. It is much more plausible they are actually the consequence of a disease. An ill person with certain symptoms similar to HIV symptoms expresses those particles too, a fact that was confirmed with this electron microscopy study:

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3371979
     
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