The Patriots caught cheating again!

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  1. WanRen

    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    The NE Patriots have been again cheating this time it was bigger than ever the result the Super Bowl 49 title. The NFL is about to give its final decision that include penalties for the team and to the QB Brady for refusing to cooperate with investigators. It is believe that Brady will be suspended how many games we will see.

    If NE hadn't deflated their balls probably Brady would not have thrown so many completed passes or he might have thrown couple of interception that would have allowed the Colts to win.

    IMO the NFL should strip the Super Bowl 49 title away fro the Patriots and declare the Super Bowl 49 as vacant.
    I hope that NFL gets this post and do declare Super Bowl 49 as vacant.
     
  2. Right is the way

    Right is the way Well-Known Member

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    I agree. Tom is not only a cheater he is a liar.
     
  3. WanRen

    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    It will not be fare for the Colts, the Sea Hawks and to most of all tot he fans and to to sports of American Football if the Patriots are allowed to keep the Super Bowl 49 title. The punishment will mean very little if the NFL only suspend Brady, fine the team or penalized them with draft picks because in the end the reason for Patriots to cheat is to get the Super Bowl 49! :flagus:
     
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    WanRen, you and I finally, finally, agree on something, and no, so far at least, I haven't felt the earth come to a stop (so that's a real good sign.)

    But they did destroy the Colts so much that I'm not sure that soft balls would have changed the win/loss equation in that game, but of course it's the principle of the thing, and we need to prevent other people in the future from cheating.
     
  5. WanRen

    WanRen New Member Past Donor

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    Its all a probability now if you look at the first half stats the Patriots were able to score 17 points on a 150 total yards of total 29 plays. The Colts 93 yards with 10 plays second quarter. The Patriots dominated the first quarter. By third quarter the Patriots had the momentum and the Colts has lost theirs. There is this probability that the Patriots would not have been able to run 29 plays or made so many complete passes both Brady and the receivers would have not been successful in holding on the ball if it wasn't deflated on the first half thus not giving them the momentum or edge on the second half.

    The bottom line is the Patriots cheated and Brady's refusal to cooperate with the investigation.

    The League has suspended Brady four regular season games and penalized the team for $1 million and 1st round draft pick. This is not enough the League should strip the Patriots of the Super Bowl 49 title and declare it vacant because right now that title is tainted I don't see how the Patriots will have the pride to say "we won the Super Bowl 49 and proudly were the ring". Against all evidences people will always deny the truth no matter what and this is what we are seeing how Brady his managers, his supporters including some sports commentators continue to stick to their lies and are going after the League for defending the integrity of the sports of NFL. It is a good thing that this is only a game. In real life we see how devastating it could be the victims are always the good and honest people.

    The Patriots can still do the right thing and give up the title because this is how True Patriots should act.:flagus:
     
  6. jack4freedom

    jack4freedom Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    All of the Patriots Super Bowl victories are tainted as far as I am concerned. They were caught cheating after the first three and there is evidence that they cheated to get into those SBs also. Cheating for Bill Belichick is a way of life.
     
  7. 9/11 was an inside job

    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    the cheatriots should be stripped of all their superbowl and AFC titles under Belicheat.

    the rams said they taped their practices two games before the superbowl which the media covered up and the panthers GM said the same thing.they were more clever against the eagles obviously not getting spotted it appears.

    having a deflated football is a huge advantage for a QB who has small hands like Brady does in cold weather games as well as it makes it much more difficult for opposing teams to cause the ball carried to fumble the ball which is why the cheats have led the league in not turning the ball over the last 8 years or so. this is a great podcast everyone should listen to that covers all this in detail.

    This is a great podcast with Nick Waggoner and John Clayton. This podcast reinforces everything I been saying that the cheats get special treatment other teams dont.that Goodell kisses Krafts ass.

    They mention how Goodel appointed himself to be the arbitrater in this case "more ass kissing of Kraft." where in the ray rice case,he appointed an independent investigation.

    Listen closely at the 17:00 minute mark.they pretty much vindicate what i been saying all along as well that this is right up there in league with the black sox scandal.:thup:

    oh and ESPECIALLY perk your ears up at the 35.00 mark.thats when it REALLY gets interesting.:thup:

    http://t.co/91EeIlC7lk
     
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    9/11 was an inside job Well-Known Member

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    the deflated balls were not a factor in the colts game however they WERE a factor in the ravens game where it was a very close game.They had to cheat their way against the ravens cause they knew they could not beat them otherwise.Brady so badly wanted a fourth superbowl to be mentioned in the same breath as montana and bradshaw as the only quarterbacks to win four superbowls that he was willing to cheat to achive it.Him and Belicheat have tainted football the same way the white sox did baseball in the black sox scandal.
     
  9. ArmySoldier

    ArmySoldier Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hate all you want, Superbowl MVP!

    4 Rings!

    :banana:
     
  10. PaulDennis

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    Admittedly so, those of us (NY Jets fans) in the same division as the Patriots love to see them get slammed. That's what my heart says. However, my head says this is soooo blown out of proportion.

    Obviously a little tongue in cheek, but here's my penalty. Instead of Brady getting suspended for the 1st 4 games, regardless of who they play, instead suspend him for 6 games....against all the division opponents. Both games against the Jets, Bills, and Dolphins. :icon_jawdrop:
     
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    brag all you want cheatriot fan,nothing is going to change the fact that this is the biggest scandal in sports since the black sox scandal the fact that many NFL former players are calling them cheaters. brady so badly wanted to be remembered in the same breath as montana and bradshaw as the only quarterbacks to win four superbowls that the game has been tarnished and he will be remembered the same way barry bonds is,someone who had to lie and cheat to achieve greatness,just like Bonds,he will have an asterisk next to his name.

    - - - Updated - - -

    the cheats are the rich spoiled brats of the NFL.they get special treatment other teams dont because Goodel has his head up Krafts ass and anybody who thinks otherwise is in denial mode.
     
  12. WanRen

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    If you look at the stats Colts vs Patriots for the first half the Patriots were able to make 29 plays for 150 yards while the Colts struggle with 10 plays for 93 yards only. The reason why the Patriots were able to complete so many passes and make 29 plays in the first half is because of the deflated ball. If the balls were standard chances are or as the finding said using the word "probable" the Patriots would not have made 29 plays and the score would have been much closer. It gave Brady the time to get the momentum on his side and warm up enough to go to the second half using standard balls while the Colts has lost all momentum.

    IMO the worst part is how some prominent people including sports talk show people are defending the cheating Patriots! And they just want to NFL to turn a blind eye on this crime. :(

    I love to see Brady and company take the NFL to court this way he'll be forced to testify and cooperate with the investigation an investigation which be refused to take part on the first placed.
     
  13. ArmySoldier

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    Bonds didn't even win ONE world series, did he?

    Bonds took steroids to enhance his game, and still couldn't win championships.

    Tom Brady has won FOUR world championships, and is accused of probably knowing something about some balls being deflated.

    LOL!

    Haters are pathetic.

    4 rings, 4 time champ, greatest in the world:flagus:
     
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    Phoebe Bump New Member

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    If what they are saying is true, I agree.
     
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    Not quite. The 1919 Chicago White Sox threw the World Series, and in 1920, after being found Not Guilty in a court of law, had eight of their top players, including the man with the second best statistic in the history of the game, Shoeless Joe Jackson, banned for life by the commissioner, Judge Landis. When people argue about Pete Rose being put in the Hall Of Fame, the conveniently forget that to do that, they must put in Joe Jackson also. I won't even go into the reason's N.Y. Yankee and St.Louis Cardinal great, two time American League MVP, Roger Maris was never elected to the HOF.

    But, I digress. This is about the Patriots, Tom Brady, and of course, Bill Belichek, with his hidden spies, cameras, paid informers, players, and all the other dirty tricks his organization pulls off just to win titles. The funny part about it, is that they really don't even need to cheat - they are that good. Being a Buffalo Bills fan for as long as I can remember, can't stand the Patriots - any sports team from Boston for that matter. The Bills have only managed to defeat him three times in 12-years. In one game two years ago, I believe, the Bills held a 10-point halftime lead, with a solid defense playing well, and Brady pushed across five straight touchdowns in the second half. Talent - deflated footballs? Who knows? The quick slant toss to the TE on the left by Brady would never be completed if the football was hard. So, haven't been a fan of the guy since the NFL gave the order to make sure New England went to the Super Bowl, and the referees invented the tuck rule in the snow against Oakland in the AFC title game, probably the worst football call in the history of the league since the Oakland Raider's "Holy Roller" play against San Diego. Don't think referees are above graft and totally honest, several NBA refs were fired for shaving points, and what happens in the NFL is a shame, some team gets screwed every week with a holding or pass interference call that had no effect whatsoever on the play. A four game suspension for Tom Brady isn't going to hurt the New England Patriots, they have been anxious to get his backup some playing time. You can figure the Pats to go 11-5 easily even if he misses those games.

    Giving back a title? No, this is professional football, not the much more corrupt NCAA college version. The Black Sox may have disgraced baseball and themselves, but they actually did lose the World Series to Cincinnati, not win it, and Jackson, Eddie Chicotte and Bucky at third played excellent, even though they were on the take from gamblers.

    Former Buffalonian, but I post out of Miami now, lots of us down here and over in Tampa. So, you can make all the calls about the University of Miami's gangster football program, but they won five National Titles, and had a 6th taken away when a blind referee threw a pass interference flag in overtime at the one yard line, from 20-yards behind the play, 20 seconds AFTER the play was blown dead by the official one foot from the play, against Ohio State. So, along with Brady and the Patriots, used to the vanilla Dolphins propaganda over the years, but at least Buffalo takes down Miami most seasons, they just can't beat Tom Brady, and I wonder why? Well, a four game suspension, if I saw the schedule right, means the Pats have to go to Buffalo without playing Brady, that is an absolute plus for the Bills and their reinvigorated experiment in rebuilding, spending $150 million in Free Agency this off season.

    Deflating the football to fit the QB's hand better and give him tighter control, means more completions; less fumbles; easier catches for his receivers. In short, it is cheating, nothing more, or less. The same if the PGA, to induce lower scores, decided to make the golf hole on the 12th and 16th holes at Augusta during the Master's tournament, five inches wide, instead of four. Doubt if anybody would notice. Using corked bats, ala Sammy Sosa, whose 66 home run season should have been eradicated from the record books, but wasn't, is another. Letting a baseball pitcher use a cutting device like sandpaper in his glove to make the curve ball dip and slide, another. An NHL Stanley Cup series game was decided on a late overtime penalty once in the late 1980's, when the opposing team had the goalie pads measured at the break, and were assessed a two minute penalty, resulting in the winning goal against them. Nobody measures the size and inflation of football's in the National Football League. Every winning horse in horse racing is tested for drugs after winning any race???? Players are tested for steroid enhancement's, so why give somebody with the talent of a Tom Brady a break. I think four games is letting him off easy, but, you don't take one of your stars off of the field in the NFL over rules violations. You also don't suspend the coach - which would have been a more appropriate punishment. Let Bill Belichek sit out a season, and lets see how the Patriots fare then? Cheating occurs at all levels, but Brady has been the most accomplished benefactor of a cheating system from his coach and owner, and the league falls down and pays homage to this club ?????? Why ???
     
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    Oh please. :roll:

    I love the Jets and can't stand the Patriots. But the biggest scandal in sports since the Black Sox scandal? My gosh.....what have you been drinking?

     
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    I think Alex Rodriguez has a couple MVPs too. Also cheating slime bag Ryan Braun from the Brewers. Brady goes directly into their class. Everything he, Belicheat and the Patriots have accomplished is heavily tainted with their stench.
     
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    Possibly, he was generally aware of what was going on. :smile:
     
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    I guess if you don't care about integrity, and winning by cheating is fine with you, then one would still be a Patriots fan.

    You must have had money riding on the game.

    "Hey, I cheated on my SAT and got the best grade in my class. I'm #1!! Suck it, all you losers who actually studied! :banana:"
     
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    LOL! Yea, it's such as huge deal that Brady "possibly knew something" about a few balls having less air than other balls.

    OMG Such a serious offense!

    Meanwhile, Superbowl Champion Ray Lewis, also, a KILLER, is looked upon as a hero of the game.

    Whine all you want. Brady didn't do anything, this is super retarded, and the Patriots are by far the best team in the league.

    Gear up, it's going to be another fun year :)
     
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    HAHAHAHA. Brady "possibly knew" about a few balls with a little less air in them than others?


    HAHAHA you can't be serious! This is the definition of grasping at straws.

    Time to sack up and watch the pats destroy the competition again next year. The race for 5!
     
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    Kraft, the owner of the Patriots, gave Vladimir Putin a Super Bowl ring out of "respect and admiration" he had for the Russian people and Putin's leadership.

    Later, he denies this saying Putin stole it and the White House pressured him to say he gave it to Putin.

    Perhaps he's a closet Marxist, and the prevailing attitude of winning at all costs certainly is in line with the Manifesto.
     
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    He's only been caught for the deflate gate incident and lied about it. We can all assume that he has been cheating throughout his career by using information obtained by Belichick's director of football investigations. Belichick has had some G. Gordon Liddy type creep, Ernie Adams working with him for decades spying, stealing play books and who really knows what else to gain a cheating edge. Bill is a great coach and Tom is a great QB, (although he is a bit of a sissy) but they are cheaters and everyone knows it. I'm glad I am not one of their fans. Cheers
     
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    That sissy won 4 world championships. I'm happy to be a fan of the greatest NFL quarterback to ever play the game. The race for 5 continues.

    The NFL's gonna get Gronkd this year :)
     
  25. WanRen

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    Brady and the Patriots can only win by cheating it showed they almost did not made it to the play offs
     

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