The Pentagon on 9/11

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  1. Bob0627

    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    What evidence? The one that has never been matched to AA77? If I'm not satisfied that the parts have been forensically matched to AA77 (there's zero evidence that was done) and there are serious anomalies with the official story (ALL OF IT), there's nothing trustworthy for me about the government's "evidence". The preponderance of evidence, no the overwhelming evidence shows the US government is covering up (LYING about) 9/11.

     
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    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    And these people:

    http://patriotsquestion911.com/
    https://www.ff911truthandunity.org/
    http://www.ae911truth.org/signatures/Petition-2750-AEs-17-01.pdf
    http://www.consensus911.org/panel-members/
    https://lawyerscommitteefor9-11inquiry.org/about2/
    http://www.scientistsfor911truth.org/about.html
    http://pilotsfor911truth.org/core.html


    They count, you don't.
     
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    So you know for certain it wasn't done? I've lived a long time, seen many reports of plane crashes. I don't recall any such broadcast by any news media stating that there was such a match. I'm wondering if you'd even admit that there were plane parts at the Pentagon on 9/11. Certainly there were numerous pictures of what looked like plane parts; pieces of he fuselage, landing gear, engine parts, etc. Will you even admit that these were plane parts?
     
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    Hey, don't get angry at me that you can't account for the physical evidence. Nobody is forcing you to adopt positions that are so bizarre.
     
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    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    Do you really believe I care enough about you to be "angry" at you? Was there something you didn't understand about you don't count? Why are you so terrified about what I believe? Just call me the usual names/labels, that will make the terror go away. Shiner does that all the time, it makes him feel better.

    But back on topic.

    Was there something you missed about there's no evidence it was done? In fact there were at least 2 FOIA requests for such a match, a simple NTSB protocol for all airplane crashes. They were both denied. There should have been 4 matches conducted since the claim was 4 airplane crashes. Not one match. How convenient, right?

    Me too and agree. Although I was never really looking for such a news media broadcast but if it did exist, I would have been all over it. So you see, no evidence, we agree.

    Why do I need to "admit" anything (especially to you)? The US government needs to admit, this isn't about me, it's about the Pentagon on 9/11. I had nothing to do with 9/11 or the fake investigations. As already well noted, the totality of the recovered "parts" from the 4 alleged airplane crashes barely fit the back of one pickup truck. I find that quite an eye opener, don't you? That's rhetorical.
     
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    About what I expected...when asked a direct question, you refuse to answer. The government did their investigation and it makes perfect sense to both those who are lay on the circumstances and facts of the day as well as those (like me) who have studied the matter for quite a while.

    Again, whether it was a scrap of plane parts or the numerous pieces we all saw that were there, you need to account for the physical evidence if you claim no plane crashed there (as you accidentally admitted earlier). Since you can't, you don't matter. Dismissed.
     
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    I made no such claim or admission. I don't know what hit the Pentagon, I wasn't there and the official story makes no sense to me. If it makes all the sense in the world to you why are you so desperate to try to convince me it does? I don't matter by your own words, right? I'm not here to convince you of anything, I don't care what you believe or not. It seems to me you are terrified of those who post facts that contradict or question the official narrative. That's why you are quick to dismiss posters such as myself. Sorry but you're in no position to dismiss me, I'm still here and will continue to post here regardless of your fears.
     
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    Hey charles..

    Why did you ignore post #454?
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index.php?threads/the-pentagon-on-9-11.482175/page-23#post-1068925552

    Here's something you should check out.
    http://physics911.net/georgenelson/
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    In all my years of direct and indirect participation, I never witnessed nor even heard of an aircraft loss, where the wreckage was accessible, that prevented investigators from finding enough hard evidence to positively identify the make, model, and specific registration number of the aircraft — and in most cases the precise cause of the accident. This is because every military and civilian passenger-carrying aircraft have many parts that are identified for safety of flight. That is, if any of the parts were to fail at any time during a flight, the failure would likely result in the catastrophic loss of aircraft and passengers. Consequently, these parts are individually controlled by a distinctive serial number and tracked by a records section of the maintenance operation and by another section called plans and scheduling.
     
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    don't be thick Bob ...

    it amuses me when you and others of your ilk use the term cognitive dissonance ...

    I never said anything regarding a cover up ... you have never explained what you think is actually being covered up ...

    from the facts as we know them, AA Flight 77 took off from Dulles ... and?
     
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    Don't be so fake Shiner.

    Good, that's what you claim to be here for, your amusement. It's a hobby right?

    Of course not, why would you? You bought the whole shebang you were fed and skipped all the disclaimers, such as the admissions of lies.


    I did but in case you missed it, 9/11 was covered up.

    From the story YOU were fed, please try to be accurate. Oh wait, that's not part of your hobby.

    And?
     
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    Yet no civilian or independent examiners were allowed to examine those parts. The Pentagon controlled the whole show, and they are known liars.

    Nobody is content with the Commission Report. After reading it in August 2004, then Senator Mark Dayton said NORAD had lied in their testimony because the time lines they cited did not add up. Yes, there are a few Senators with common sense.

    The Commission Report noted 63 times that they "found no evidence" to support one detail or the other from the official narrative.

    After it came out, one poll conducted found that 85% of respondents thought the government was covering something up.

    You need to increase you Knowledge Quotient of the report and the story if you're going to make such claims. Right now that quotient is very much on the low side.
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    Would you be interested in providing any of the facts or evidence FOR your claim that AA77, a Boeing 757, struck the Pentagon?

    Didn't think so....

    There is none. And all the known facts work against that theory. The FDR was counterfeit.
     
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    Actually it was the FBI from my understanding. They took over the "investigation" from the NTSB as part of their PENTBOM pretense and reported nothing of any significance publicly that would change the official fairy tale, then hid over 80,000 pages of documents for more than a decade and lied to Congress and the 9/11 Commission telling them they turned over everything. The Pentagon's top brass just lied and told the 9/11 Commission different conflicting stories as did the FAA.

    See points MC-6 through MC-9.

    http://www.consensus911.org/the-911-consensus-points/#Commands1
     
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    Eleuthera Well-Known Member Donor

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    If the truth could be known, I'm sure it was an equal effort by all players. Being their own HQ, likely the DIA and other pentagon agencies were more active and involved there, but I don't know for sure.

    The FBI role at Shanksville was dominant, as reported by Wally Miller and others.
     
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    Some of that effort was motivated by CYA, not necessarily direct involvement.
     
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    you used to seem somewhat rational Bob ... wow how you have fallen into madness ... you said it all in 11 words ... I can no longer take you seriously ...
     
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    I'm so devastated Shiner. No longer? When did you ever? But seriously, I never took you seriously except maybe at the very beginning when I wasn't sure. I'm proud to be "irrational" to you.

    Mad Bob

    Edit: You're off topic as usual Shiner (so am I in response).
     
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    I am not at all off topic Bob ... I am just continuing the string of conversation and debate regarding the Pentagon on 9/11 ... we seem to be in disagreement on the origins of AA77 ... I am well aware of what I have been told but you seem to be confused by what YOU have been told ...

    don't play amateur psychologist with me Bob ... I will win every time ...

    you continue to embellish your psychobabble with every post ... do you honestly believe the **** you post these days or are you a fraud being paid to perpetuate this nonsense? ...

    this one is simple Bob ... AA77 ... let's start at the beginning ... I have only been fed flight records and ATR data ... what do you have to dispute that? ...
     
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    Off topic drivel ignored.

    Reminder: I don't debate.

    A severe lack of evidence, NO serial number match as repeatedly proven. Without that, the FDR is suspect and so are all the allegedly recovered parts. Those in conjunction with no legitimate investigation and the severe improbability/impossibility of the official claim regarding the event make EVERYTHING untrustworthy. Why would any intelligent human being fall for idiotic stories spewed by a pathological liar on faith? You want to talk about "madness", "psychobabble", "nonsense" and "(dis)honesty"? Hypocrisy much Shiner?

    Do you honestly think you can convince me of anything you have to post about 9/11? You should know better by now.
     
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    ". I personally don't believe an airliner hit the Pentagon" your words. You should keep your story straight.

    Again, your stated belief does not account for the physical evidence we all saw with our own eyes--you included.

    That makes you intellectually dishonest at best.

    Have a nice day.
     

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