The Post says: give it up Mr. Present for your sake and the nation's

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  1. drluggit

    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    It makes you feel comfortable, obviously. The "big shifts" all only seemed to happen in places where oversight was removed. How can you explain that? If, as you suggest, counting mail in ballots last is the cause, ok, how do we ever know that these ballots were cast by folks? In some cases, the recorded votes vastly outstrip and perform in areas where frankly no historical performance would indicate that those precincts could have performed in the way the vote count suggests that they did. It's what? Magic?

    Democrats have, in one voice through their media, essentially told americans to shut up. Move along, Biden won. And have literally not spent a minute other than, as you have, pointed to a population of votes that no one can validate. These weren't typical absentee ballots, there wasn't actual rigor in requesting, validating them, and then verifying them against the voter roles. (I know, democrats call all of those controls "voter suppression" or some other toss) but having witnessed this election, ti begs credulity that somehow, in places like Detroit for example, that the local precincts voted at or above 100% of voting aged residents. That these precincts could literally have received a ballot from "EVERY" person of the local district or more and all of them voted en bloc for Biden. It just strains the ability to, as you have, justify this as the magic bullet that you feel comfortable accepting.

    Ok, so, as you suggest, "Biden has been pretty restrained". really? He's barely functional most of the time, so his absence is simply the attempt to keep him from saying really offensive and stupid things that have been the hallmarks of his career.

    I think you have an issue with what courts have actually said. Mostly, courts have said the complainants don't hav standing. Or, in the case of more political judges, have ignored the evidence and summarily ruled ignoring the evidence presented but choosing to publicly decry that there wasn't any. Tell you what. That isn't the way to make folks comfortable. It's pejorative. What harm could there have been in actually spending the time to unwind these concerns? Democrats spent 4 years trying to make Russia true, and spent a ton of money investigating. Why not now? It seems to be something democrats love to do, don't they? So why not spend some time, in these states, actually investigating these voting behaviors and satisfying the half of america that don't trust them?

    I would remind you that mr Gore spent much more time, and resources, disputing three counties in FL. Perhaps you forgot. I get it. Your guy seems to be on track to be the next president. I suppose you feelz good about that. But spare us the "for the good of the nation cr&p, cause obviously, you seem not to care at all about that.
     
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    drluggit Well-Known Member

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    Hmm.. so Biden selling out to the Russians, the Ukrainians, and the Chinese is good for us?
     
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    :roflol:

    "the perception for many is that this was manipulated in a way that suggests that the outcomes weren't possible unless there was widespread substantive cheating."

    ^Is that one of those observations like:

    "the perception for many is that Bat Boy really won, but this was manipulated in a way that suggests that the outcomes weren't possible unless there was widespread substantive cheating."

    "the perception for many is that the Earth is Flat, Bigfoot Exists, and the Moon Landing was Faked"

    Got it.:bored:

    That is a fun game.

    Besides, even if All of the 74.2 Million People who voted for Trump are going to spend the next 4 years screaming "We Wuz Robbed", that is only 22.5% of America.

    So, if 22.5% of the Country wants to believe in an Unfounded Conspiracy Theory that the other 77.5% of America rejects, that is their prerogative.

    That still doesn't change the FACT That:

    Biden Won Fair and Square. Period.
    ^And, anyone not accepting that Fact is Denying Reality
    .

    And, obviously, The NY Post's Advice to Trump is Spot-On.
     
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    So keep believing that you have the truth in front of an overwhelming majority of voters.

    The Democrats only want people like you as political opponents.

    The more radical the GOP becomes, the longer a Democrat will serve as President.
     
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    It's hilarious ... just 4 months ago, Trump supporters were so happy that Trump had appointed so many judges and Justices ... now they are saying
    he simply aided and abetted the corruption of the justice system.

    Absolutely, ****ing hilarious.
     
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    You can't do anything with them.

    There will always be a fringe of the electorate disconnected from reality.

    They were marginalized for a century before Trump made them his base, and on January 20 at noon they will return to marginality.
     
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    All of your points can, should, and I presume have, been put to the courts. It's convenient that when judges have explicitly rejected the cases for lack of evidence, you label them 'political'. So there is literally no way for the courts to disprove your case. What harm in continuing to investigate? It creates a terrible precedent when one candidate refuses to accept a loss which is ratified by the states and confirmed by the courts. The Gore election was incredibly close; this one, not nearly so much.
     
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    So, your theory is that only 23% of the US makes up, as you suggested 77.5% of the country. Laughable I get why you included the emojis. You were laughing at your own post. And when you say "fair and square" what does that actually mean? Prove your guys' ballots were all legit.
     
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    It took less than three weeks for Coney Barrett to become a Rino....
     
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    So, your cure is, move along.... nothing to see... got it. This really is what third world countries do. You seem on board with that. You know what a terrible precedent is? Not investigating. Glossing over inconvenient facts in favor of ignorance. But that is what democrats want, isn't it.
     
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    The Worst President Ever Donnie's legacy of MAKING AMERICA A THIRD-WORLD COUNTRY AGAIN.
     
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    You know, true ignorance is sitting with a bunch of people who know the Emperor has no clothes, but being so emotionally invested in the
    Emperor, that you applaud anyway ... and throw stones at anyone who dares suggest that the dude might want to cover up.

    That's how the Trump appointed Supreme Court, Fox News and Ruppert Murdock suddenly became part of the "Deep State" in the
    minds of the Trump fanatics. It's crazy town.
     
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    2016 was a closer election than this one.
     
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    Your individual liberty is nothing if you can't accept the truth of the election !!!!!
     
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    I question anyone's mental health if they cannot accept the reality of this election, let alone going through life using poilitics as a moral guideline!!!!!
     
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    Prove the ballots were legit? They were certified to be legitimate. It is up to trump to prove they weren’t legitimate, and all his lawsuits attempting to do so failed.
     
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    Remember this oldie but goodie?
    Bobby Jindal: GOP needs to 'stop being the stupid party'
    Today, Jindal would say that the GOP needs to 'stop being the insanely stupid party.' Without a shred of evidence of massive voter fraud as claimed by Crackhead Donnie, polls show over 70 percent of Republicans believe the big, fat lies of massive voter fraud by the big, fat liar, Lying Donnie.
     
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    Exactly.

    Even today, almost 8 Weeks since Election Day and 51 Days (7 1/2 Weeks since Biden's Victory) you still have some people (even in this thread) still basing their "case" on Thoroughly Debunked Conspiracy Theories (like "Vote Dumps":bored:), and constant repetition of Discredited "Talking Points" that only exist outside the realm of reality.

    It really is hard to imagine that some people are still wallowing in the horrifically misguided repetition of Debunked (and Completely Unrealistic) Talking Points.

    At this point, outside of some sort of catharsis for Trump supporters (who still can't accept Biden's Landslide Victory), one has to wonder why people (even 55 days later) are still repeating these Absurd Conspiracy Theories.

    The NY Post just said what 80% of America is thinking.
     
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    You continue to write in euphemisms. Why? I recognize something that you seem to be unable to. We don't have to like people, personally, to recognize that what they achieve is in our best interest, do we? You've spent years telling us how reviled you are, and yet, most folks have, in fact, greatly benefitted from what has transpired. The end of the war culture. The improvement of the economic circumstances, there is a pretty long list. And yet, none of those achievements ever overcame your unwillingness to cast off your personal revilement. That just sounds limiting.

    As for who the deep state are, the founders all understood the dynamic, which is why they opted for such a limited government experience. Folks know it today. It's obvious. And it's what you seem deeply entrenched in trying to protect.
     
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    FYI, your deep state innuendos are euphemisms :)
     
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    Both sides are guilty of ignoring inconvenient facts. But in this case, the courts have clearly spoken, after weeks of intense effort to prove fraud or disenfranchisement. So unless you're saying the courts in on the conspiracy, it would appear the facts are on Biden's side. So the third world analogy in this case would appear much more suited to Trump as Mugabe.
     
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    Indeed
     
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    I can't help it if you are so emotionally invested in Trump that you can't see the long term problems every one of his "accomplishments" brought with it.

    Trump's tax plan blew up the the National Debt in a way that even Obama can't match - even before Covid. Trump sacrificed the future for a good
    stock market now. Kicking the can down the road isn't an accomplishment. And Trump never even beat Obama's lack-luster GDP numbers.

    Replacing one set of government officials with donors and equally corrupt friends is not an "accomplishment". Hell, Trump had more staff leave under
    ethics violations than any previous administration. Hell, Trump hired Omorosa and The Mooch - and you crow about "accomplishments"?

    And when people talk about Trump's "accomplishments" they completely disregard the entire last year of his administration - higher unemployment, horrific
    GDP numbers, adding $9 trillion to the debt in just 4 years (hell, even Obama only managed to add $8.9 trillion in 8 years).

    All this wrapped in a person who spent his days in twitter fights with Hollywood nobodies, spent $180 million golfing, and seemed to get
    along better with dictators than traditional allies. He was toxic.
     
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    I don't care what he does, or doesn't do, anymore.... if I ever really did... He's toast and I hope they kick his cottage-cheese ass out of Mar-A-Lago...

    However, I fervently hope the GOP does challenge certain states on 1/6... that's a vote I would pay to watch live (although I suspect it will be free). It's not often you get to watch a guaranteed-to-fail sedition attempt play out before our eyes...
     
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    Gosh. Well, it should be interesting watching you haul Biden's work over the coals then. Where do you suppose his policies will go? More spending, more regulation, more stratification? is that really what you feel is in the best interests of us all? And for the sake of argument, when Biden's spending doesn't abate, and his policy incurs yet more and more debt, will you hold hm to task too? I doubt it. You enjoyed telling us all along that in your view everything was short term. Really? Moving economic vitality back to this country, in your mind is bad? Seems as much. So, instead of actually recognizing that our nation has to be more than just folks who have an opinion, what will you do as mr Biden cedes more and more of our ability to be exceptional to everyone else? Will you be content in the knowledge that the US used to be great? Seems as much. You're terribly interested in the trillions in debt that offset what draconian democrats were willing to do to the people. You even seem to be apologizing for it. You get to point to that briefly, unemployment was caused when democratic govs and mayors shuttered their jurisdictions. And you cry crocodilian tears over the damage. And yet, you've yet to ever espouse that damage, nor the responsibility of those who invoked it. Because you just couldn't accept orange man, or any of his accomplishments. Tell us how long it took Fauci to defeat AIDs. He still hasn't, and if he'd had his way, WuFlu would have been no different, option for "management" not a vaccine. He still cannot accept that the medical world ignored his incompetence and crafted several vaccines. It's staggering how just a persona can so virulently hate the people and yet still be in charge of medically protecting them.

    And what will Biden do for you? Other than forever destroy the Eisnhowerism in you? And yet, here you are, still pouting. Orange man bad. Tragic.
     

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