The problem with God's Role in the election

I have read many posts stating that the election results were of God's will. This is a philosophical minefield that seems to positively result in a contradiction to the Omnipotent, Omnipresent, and Omnibelevolent model of God.

If God's actions determined the election, that seems to violate the premise of freewill (Omnipotence violates freewill, but we will ignore that for a moment).

If God's actions influenced the election, then that is also violates freewill.

Which demonstrates a lovely contradiction to the premise of Omnibelevolence; if God can violate free will be determining an outcome; or violate free will in influencing an outcome, then why interfere in a US election? Why not stop or influence the end of starvation? Genocide? Why be concerned about the outcome between two men in a first world nation with a high standard of living (for most anyway)?

If God influenced the election, and influences elections, does God influence some or all? Did God influence the election that greatly benefited the Adolf Hitler and the Third Reich? He was Catholic. Romans 13:1-7 claims that all governments are institutions of God (the joys of an all power and all knowing God is that such a being would be aware of all evils before they actually occur).

How can God have a "plan" while freewill exists anyway? It would be like giving Chess pieces free will and attempt to play the game with a planned strategy.
Such statements only sound good when the plan is positive, and doesn't include the extermination of six million souls. The "God has a plan for everyone" conversation stops when I ask of Hitler's part in this grand plan...

It seems to be a poorly reasoned philosophical minefield, which the product is either the unavoidable destruction of free will and/or Omnipotence, Omnipresence, and Omnibelevolence.

Just sayin'.

 

God doesnt interfere. He cant. HE just watches and hopes we make good decisions, based on his teachings. Sometimes he laughs and sometimes he gets mad. Hes just like us. He was hoping obama wouldnt win. We fail him all the time.

 

God can't interfere?

So there is a limit on Omnipotence? So then Omnipotence is destroyed? God is not God without Omnipotence.

Do you ever to stop and ponder before you make arguments?

 

Yeah sure, God's a half baked nut job, just like.... yoo hoo!

 

And did he tell you he wanted Romney to win?

 

There's a fair chance we'd all be Soviets right now if not for Hitler. Just saying. There's no God, but Hitler certainly saved the world from Communism by raping the Soviets the way he did.

 

So god is not Omnipotent?

 

Na. He could. He IS god. He can do anything he wants to. He just chooses not to. And hasnt for any time in modern history where we could you know.... actually VERIFY the so called "miracles". It seems very convenient to me that the only people who saw any miracles at all are the ones from ancient times when they still thought the earth was flat.

 

Lol, it is so delusional to make such a categorical statement like "He was hoping Obama wouldn't win," that I can't even begin to comprehend how some people feel that they know the will of God.

 

You have to understand that jedi gets stoned so that God will speak to him personally. Then it should all make perfect sense.

 

Are you sure you know what you are talking about? Three times you used a term that is not a proper term... therefore, there is a strong likelihood that you intentionally used that non-word. What is the meaning of "Omnibelevolence" or "Omnibelevolent"?

 

so God has limits to his power?

 

There is no falsifying religious beliefs reasonably. If they get their way, God is favoring them. If they don't, God is testing them... . . . . . .

 

If there was really free will, I would have never ever made a wrong choice. If free will was real, I'd be living in paradise.

 

He meant omnibenevolent. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omnibenevolence

It really does not take rocket Science to figure out what his typos were really supposed to be.

 

You idiots dont get it. He only created us. His job is done. He does not control minds of people or control people like zombies with some sort of magical remote. he created us and moved on. He cannot interfere.

 

Then he is not omnipotent. If he is omnipotent then he is an evil (*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*)(*).

Ofcourse the easiet explination is, is that this 'god' doesn't exist.

Which one is it jedi?

 

An omnipotent God can do whatever an omnipotent God wants to do, because an omnipotent God is the God. Evil must get permission from God to do the evil it does. Most small brained people blame God for the evil evil does, or they pretend God doesn't exist so they don't have to think it through. And therein lies the "choice".

 

God didn't seem to have much of a problem with denying freewill in Exodus: Exodus 7:3 – 4, 7:13, 7:22, 8:15, 8:19, 8:32, 9:7, 9:12, 9:34 – 35, 10:20, 10:27 and 11:10.

 

Sounds like fantasy to me. I'm supposed to worship something that doesn't impact my life in any way?

 

Heh! We pretend that your god doesn't exist? So do many religious people, FYI. They have their own gods with their own set of rules and such to worry about.

 

If evil needs god permission and god grants evil permission than that makes god evil.

 

what does that mean rstones.
the statement has no meaning!!!!

 

God gives permission.
Gos is at fault.

It is obvious.

 

You can't fault perfection.