The Reason China Will Beat America

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  1. AFM

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    Those wacky progressives and their orange baby balloons. It's quite an intellectual statement. Awesome.
     
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    Now there is some twisted logic. How did you come up with that ??

    Who is the only President who actively is working to eliminate the Chinese theft of US IP which was likely used to "design" and build those tanks ??
     
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    Usually she only scares those on the right. The left just looks at her as a kid they pay to screw with the righties.
    Your not getting a case of the rights are you? :)
     
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    Starjet Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Hmm. A bit like what the "powers-soon-replaced" thought of Lenin.
     
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    When china steals the technology and underpays it workers it really is NOT FAIR to American workers who lose their jobs

    Liberals are mortgaging America’s future in exchange for cheap trinkets
     
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    Nice jab, but without much power
     
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    Starjet Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And you're sacrificing those working for those that aren't, can't, or won't. When our purchasing power drops, and consumption slows, who will be laying off whom? And for what? The common good? Nothing like a little human sacrifice to brighten your future--especially if you are on the receiving end.
     
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    Dream on buddy

    If you were in china you would only know what the dictatorship wanted you to know
     
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    It doesn't follow from those cultural and political divisions that China will advance at all. The same is said every few years about Muslims, Japanese, Communists, and so on. Right now, unlike the US, China has no real succession system, and that is a real weakness.

    The USA has always been divided between different factions, it's a very messy democracy, but in the end the people will unite. if the Chinese (only seemingly united because of a lack of free media) do attack the US then the American people will have the opportunity to exercise their Second Amendment rights. I wouldn't underestimate the possibility of other democracies also getting involved.
     
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    Obviously, someone knew enough.
     
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    Fred C Dobbs Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    And that's a logical assumption, though incorrect. They'll get optimistic from the Pelosi noise, as in the link below, but their hopes would be dashed. Pelosi will say foolish things for her base but that's the political Pelosi, not the American Pelosi..
    https://dailycaller.com/2019/06/09/...ush&utm_source=daily_caller&utm_campaign=push
     
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    Trump’s objective is to eliminate the theft of IP and elimination of Chinese tariffs and trade restrictions on US exports to China. He is using tariffs as a “stick” to accomplish this. This benefits US workers. It does not penalize them. Why don’t progressives understand this ???
     
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    These guys ADVChina, SerpentZA, and laowhy86 are good.

    I learned a lot from watching these guys. All I ever hear from the US media on China is negative stuff. When these guys are reporting there always seem to be hundeds of happy Chinese in the background. Much of what we are fed on tiananmen square is BS. Wikileaks leaked reports from the US anbassador written while that was going on. The military was brutal but the numbers were exagerated by the US. The protesters set some PLA trucks on fire and killed soldiers which pissed the soldiers off.

    Lately they have been more negative on China as they report from outide and also since the govt is becoming more negative toward foreigners. The unity of China when they were under Mao was very harmful so it is not just the unity but what they are doing. There are cultural and IMO genetic reasons why they are doing well.

    They will do well because they are more rational than the west, which has been taken over by regulatory sclerosis. They need electricty they build coal plant and dams. We take 20 years to do the envorinmental review and believe in renewable energy. A few years ago the CCP standing comittee had 8 engineers and 1 economist. The US has mostly lawyers. They think differently. Xi was trained as a chemical engineer.

    Steve Jobs used his one meeting with Obama to offer to work on his next campaign and to tell him that Apple built its new glass plants in China because of govt regulatory delays and costs, not because of cheap labor. Then Obama formed some group to promote STEM etc but it consisted of crony capitalists, politicians and assorted butt lickers so Jobs refused to be part of it.
     
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    I found one book on China that was good. China is different but hard to explain.
    In some ways it is much better than I expected. China is Asian, and the govt does not fit into a flowchart.
    Read The Party: The Secret World of China’s Communist Rulers Paperback – July 31, 2012 by Richard McGregor (Author)
    After I read it I was less ignorant but more confused.
     
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    I sometimes forget that you are not American
     
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    Yeh, right, and WalMart is eating all the 'mom and pops' that made America great.

    It used to be WE were the subversives, WE were the ones foreigners erected tariffs against. WE were the ones who undercut everyone and still gave the world's best product. That's how we got to where we are now.

    Having to appeal to patriotism and tariffs to make us buy our own stuff is about the most Un-American thing I can even conceive of.

    Americans buy value and we demand it for less. America is ABOUT cheaper underwear. We are built on consumer culture. Go to Somaliland if you want to see what kind of life "spiritual values" gives you.
     
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    They should be arrested, Yes, they should be SHOT. How DARE they MOCK the one who is MAKING AMERICA GREAT AGAIN.
     
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    One of few who realize it’s an ideal to subscribe and ascribe to, and not a tribal idol to bow before.
     
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    They mock themselves with their orange baby balloons. Why would the self proclaimed mentally superior liberal progressives manifest their colossal intelligence using orange baby balloons ???
     
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    The promise of the American Dream is the exact opposite of tribalism. Read “We Have Overcome - An Immigrant’s Letter to the American People” - Jason D. Hill - 2018.
     
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    Yes because they are not nearly as slimy as Trump and his family and cabinet. Nothing wrong with stabbing in the back a president whose main objective seems to be to destroy America.
     
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    Obviously because they are appealing to the intellectual capabilities of the average Trump supporter. Next silly question.
     
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    By displaying orange baby balloons ??? That tactic certainly takes superior intelligence. And that certainly is silly.
     
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    Doubling the economic growth rate of Obamanomics is destroying America ??
     
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    You learn your lesson?
    Everyone knew the jobs were going to leave. At least those who don't follow party BS.
    So most of us already know what will happen. So I doubt wiser is part of it.

    And I asked, we are at near full employment. Now the R's want to ruin the economy to bring jobs back they make leave. Who will fill them? Immigrants?
    Be smart, since you are now older, you don't have much more time to get wise.
     
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