The Religion of Atheism

But that is not the same topic as abiogenesis, as the universe was here long before life appeared on our planet. I don't know how the universe appeared.

 

Fair enough.

 

It would be an entirely futile attempt because you come to the table with preconceptions and beliefs that form strong resistance to any objective perception of Reality. Indeed, you, as every other human during childhood and early adolescence, were inculcated with certain beliefs and attitudes regarding how one should think and feel in response to daily life stimuli.

Frustration, anger, depression, hopelessness...these are all negative feelings that are a result of the "resistance" of perceiving life and the universe as it truly is. If one comes forth with a set of ingrained attitudes that define how his response to life stimuli should be, then you can expect these attitudes to ultimately reflect his reality. If human 1 loses human 2, then human 1 becomes angry and devastated. Human 1's negative feelings are a result of his general thought pattern, which was fashioned in him since his early childhood. Indeed, it was his family and society at large that influenced him in regards to how one ought to think and feel when he loses something of perceived value.

Thus, Human 1s powerful attachment to Human 2 resulted in the expected: a powerful devastation. Ergo, Human 1's reality was a direct reflection of his ingrained mental framework that was programmed to react to loss. After all, we are essentially what we think, and thoughts themselves are but energy that react with the wider energy of the universe outside us.

The atheist will have to first rid his mental facilities of any perconceptions regarding what any particular event could possibly mean, for due to his limited knowledge, he has no way of truly knowing whether something is good or bad, or what anything really "is" for that matter. Until he does that, he will continue to see reality through the prism of dualism, and he will always be "resisting" Oneness, precluding him from ever finding the proof he seeks...when all he has to do his let go and trust in God.

 

In other words ….No Answer.

Interestingly, this Atheist was raised from childhood in a Catholic family, attended church almost daily and went to religious classes daily, so my table was set with the crucifix and the trappings. I was human 1 with human 2's clothing leading to me becoming human 3 and what someone here calls "A Lacker" which I think is meant as an insult but I find appealing. I find it silly that you folks claim to know what an Atheist thinks better than we do and get so upset if an Atheist quotes your Bible(s) for some reason.

 

In other words....a lazy attempt for no rebuttal.

Whats the significance of this? It's not like religious people aren't blinded to Oneness by their dualistic material nature. Whether you're a Jesus freak, a Muslim terrorist, or a disbelieving atheist...your material preconceptions are getting in the way of union with the One, and your perception of Reality is distorted. Why? Because all three groups think in terms of dualism, which explains their ignorant ways.

 

Then I suppose the saying is true....Ignorance truly IS bliss and the best part being I do not need to debase other people...just their actions.

 

It would be a futile effort because there is no scientific evidence. But I do appreciate your attempts to disguise the fact by extensive babbling.

But you are right about one thing. I was inculcated with certain beliefs during childhood otherwise know as religious brainwashing. But then I grew up and learned ctitical thinking .

 

…...This...

 

No, silly, the point is that if atheists wish to test the hypothesis, they have to undergo and observe the transformation within themselves, for only then will they realize the success of the experiment as reflected in the experience of their reality.

Indeed, no matter how many examples I refer you to, you're always going to find material excuses because of your ingrained dualistic perception of "what is."

You were inculcated with more than just religious beliefs. All the memories and experiences and feelings have fused to make you the person you are today. It is thus fairly easy for us to determine the probability of how you will react to a particular situation, as your existence is simply a totality of your material experiences...or is it?

This is the question the atheist must answer before definitely concluding that there is no God. The only way to answer it is to know himself, and ascertain who he really is.

 

Nope silly. Some of us when we grow up are capable of independant thought. And the logic of your argument that the only way to conclude there is no god is to accept that there is a god is staggering in it's idiocy.

 

Well you've proved to be another waste of time.

 

She left you because you were attached.

 

The Constitution of the USA is capable of being overturned if man decides to do so. So it is not supreme. The General Manager is subject to his workforce. Without them he has no decision to make. And I definitely consider the dolphin or the porpoise as far more intelligent mammals than man.

 

I don't know, there are some apes smarter than some of the people on these forums.

 

Strawman.

But of course it can be overturned, as man created it, and the constitution is certainly not supreme over man. Its supremeness is identified in juxtapostion to all other US based laws.

The GM has the last the say on all matters concerning an organization, regardless if he has any employees to subject. That is the role of his job description; it has nothing to do with the potential presence or absence of a workforce.

Then you are a fool. Only man has the capacity to reason.

 

Some women do.

 

Yep, for the religious logical thinking is always a waste of time.

 

Religious, and logical, shouldn't be in the same sentence.

 

Very new-age-y. But we live in a world of duality, where it is impossible to define most things without making reference to the opposite: light/dark, day/night, pain/pleasure, male/female, summer/winter, hot/cold, wet/dry. I'll disagree with you insofar as there is no good or bad. There may be no good or bad but thinking makes it so, but we have plenty of things to think are bad, and most people categorize most of the same things into the "bad" or "good" category. Loss of a loved one is mostly categorized as bad. Consensual sex with a spouse is mostly categorized as good. Loss of a loved one may be "only reality", but that doesn't take any of the grief out of it.

I'm an atheist who doesn't have a bitter and irrational hatred of God, so I can look at nature objectively and still see no God at the end of the tunnel. I reached my disbelief through logic rather than disappointment.

There are a number of new age prophets preaching a unitary reality, a God but no Devil, kind of message. There's a guy out in California preaching something called The New Message, a woman preaching a similar message up in Canada, I think it was, and several others. Which one do you follow? Or are you your own prophet?

 

I don’t know how we were created but I don’t make up silly stories like in invisible man in the sky windproof. Do you believe Zeus is king of the gods. The ancient Greeks explained everything they didn’t understand with God. It would be like me getting sick and doctors don’t know why so they said that it was God who made me sick

 

Men created God not the other way around

 

I believe in unicorns..does that make me a unicornist?

 

You’re playing with semantics now

 

You wouldn't know logical thinking if it came to you in the middle of the night and grabbed your throat.