The "Schrodinger's Cat" problem of "abnormal" sex...

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  1. Gorn Captain

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    So there is NO DIFFERENCE ...except the genders of the two people involved?
     
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    except you aren't comparing the same thing. the throwing of the ball is not the act that requires consent it is the taking. Taking the ball is not the same as playing catch.

    Rape is violence.
     
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    It's interesting how often the Right gets in trouble when they talk about rape, isn't it? How they almost seem to dismiss it. Ref: Todd "legitimate rape" Akin or Richard "pregnancy from rape may be God's plan" Mourdock who ran for US Senate in 2012.
     
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    yes, rape is violence and illegal (at least thankfully it still is)

    But, rape involves a sexual act be it homosexual or heterosexual is based upon the gender of the parties.

    In my correctly used example, the ball was still thrown whether the ball was stolen or obtained willingly does not change the fact of it having been thrown.
     
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    Again, just to reiterate the OP....

    Ask a homophobe a hypothetical-

    Two PEOPLE are dating...one night, one of the PEOPLE gives oral sex to the other PERSON....

    is that "abnormal sex"? Yes or No?
     
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    No but that is okay....I am not sure you can be enlightened.
     
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    Correct. Enough with the stupid questions. Make a relevant point if you can.
     
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    But I have not made "out that the rape of a man by a man is different from the rape of a woman by a man .."
    You imagined that part.
     
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    You try to make it different by including the qualifies of "homosexual sex" or "heterosexual sex" .. so again the question asked, which you ignored, if you have not tried to make out the rape of a man by a man or a woman by a man is different then why do you need to add those qualifies, do you think it matters?
     
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    for those who for whatever reason wish to deflect from the fact that there is homosexual and heterosexual rape then yes, you would want to use a larger all inclusive place holder.

    Not all ice cream is chocolate.
     
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    sorry but there is no distinction in law, rape is rape regardless of the attackers and victims gender.

    A criminal offense defined in most states as forcible sexual relations with a person against that person's will.... all states define rape without reference to the sex of the victim and the perpetrator....

    Rape is an act of violence, not sex.
     
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    To review for you who would rather imagine what I have said, instead of reading what I said-

    OF COURSE rape frequently involves heterosexual or homosexual sex. Lack of consent doesn't transform sexual relations into something else. Rahl just likes to disagree with people. Even over clearly factual statements such as "male on male sex is homosexual sex". Its a fact. There is no dispute and there is only Rahl's and your delusions.
     
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    It is usually both.
     
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    Except it's not homosexual or heterosexual sex. It's rape.
     
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    Words have meaning that don't change because you disagree.

     
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    Words have meaning that don't change because you disagree.

     
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    Sex requires consent. Rape is not sex. Sorry
     
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    The dictionary says otherwise. But you are sufficiently full of yourself, that you think you know better. Explains much of your detachment from reality.
     
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    1-Labeling is not the same thing as discrimination.

    The definition of discrimination is this.

    2-That's physically impossible.

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    Read Merriam Webster dictionary's definitions that dixon posted.
     
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    Reality is sex requires consent. Rape is not sex. Sorry

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    Merrimack Webster isn't the law. Sex requires consent. Rape is not sex.
     
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    The definition of rape is, ": to force (someone) to have sex with you by using violence or the threat of violence."
     
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    So you don't think consent makes any difference between the act of sex and the act of rape . .strange world you occupy.

    Can you please show me from a legal aspect where in rape laws there is any reference to the gender of either the attacker or the victim, and if you cannot then perhaps you can explain why you feel the necessity to add homosexual or heterosexual sex to the act of rape.

    I'm sorry, can you please quote where I have stated that male on male sex is not homosexual sex?
     
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    Sex requires consent. Rape is forced penetration, not sex. Sorry
     
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    Try labeling a black person as a ni??er and see what happens

    Re-read the definition and notice the highlighted word.

    Read the legal definition of rape and show me where any distinction is made as to the gender of either the attacker or the victim;

    all states define rape without reference to the sex of the victim and the perpetrator.
     
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    The definition of rape is forced sexual penetration.
     

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