The search for dark matter

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  1. Bishadi

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    but each star is an engine and if them engines are associating, their combined potential is greater and a process (rotation) occurs (galaxie/hurricane). It aint gravity at a central but more like the fields of each smaller system is associating with it surrounding, until eventually they all have an act in the caused rotation.


    exactly. All that hypothesis and nothin to back it up. ie... even hubble proved the galaxies dont rotate as the math predicted.

    all that is just sci fi.

    kind of like monsters at the edge of the oceans drop off (horizon)
     
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    Maybe the concept of the Big Bang is actually the process of a black hole? Over billions of light years the Universe is created then sucked into a black hole singularity then created again and so on. I know those with pertinent knowledge are gagging right now at my comments but does anyone truly and/or factually know how it all works?

    It's still not intuitive to me the physical characteristics of a black hole? Where does the hole go? Is there only one opening in the 'sphere' where all matter and light enters? Is this process infinite?
     
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    I'm wondering about hierarchy? If stars can be gobbled up by a black hole, then the black hole ranks higher in the hierarchy. If black holes can gobble up galaxies and billions of stars, can a black hole also create galaxies and billions of stars? Is there any way to associate black holes with the Big Bang process?
     
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    when a star gets gobbled up, then there is a case.

    But that hypothesis of a star being gobbled has NEVER been observed, EVER!

    I see it in the sense, that a hurricane does not have a hole, without the surrounding storms to show it.

    no gobbling by black holes of billions of star is or has EVER occurred in nature.
    none what so ever in nature.

    Mathematically? They come from the same failures in physics. (energy based on speed)
     
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    So...the Big Bang created visible matter, dark matter, dark energy, gravity; in which of these categories is the black hole located?

    Or is a black hole a 5th category created from the Big Bang?

    Or did the Big Bang only involve visible matter while dark matter and dark energy and gravity exists in infinite quantity...in which perhaps there are many Universes?

    So if a black hole never gobbled stars or galaxies, then in the grand scheme of things, even a super-massive black hole is a relatively small thing?
     
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    So...the Big Bang created visible matter, dark matter, dark energy, gravity; in which of these categories is the black hole located?

    Or is a black hole a 5th category created from the Big Bang?

    Or did the Big Bang only involve visible matter while dark matter and dark energy and gravity exists in infinite quantity...in which perhaps there are many Universes?

    So if a black hole never gobbled stars or galaxies, then in the grand scheme of things, even a super-massive black hole is a relatively small thing?
     
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    Scientists hope to detect that rare event when a particle of dark "stuff" bumps into regular matter...
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    Dark Matter: Experiment to shed light on dark particles
    5 February 2013 - BBC World Service science reporter Rebecca Morelle has been inside the Darkside50 experiment
     
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    BB is a joke

    visible matter is just matter reacting (emitting in the visible wavelength)

    dark matter is just not lit (there is no new matter, just element/atoms/molecules that are not emitting)

    dark energy is any energy not visible (radio wavelengths are dark to people)

    gravity is the entanglement, cause by em (shared energy between points)

    black hole is just a center of circling of a collection of mass

    it aint a force, it aint a stuff, it aint bending space, it aint colapsing

    That black hole belief is like like tailmud to judaism (failed interpretations)
     
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    Well this thinking is entirely wrong according to modern theory. That much we know. The laws of the Universe are contained within it, they were forged IN the big bang (even that isn't true, it wasn't big, and there was no bang). Moreover the Universe didn't expand into anything. Hence, there was no gravity, or dark matter "outside" of it.
     
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    Granny still don't understand how dey gonna see it if it's dark?
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    Alpha Magnetic Spectrometer zeroes in on dark matter
    3 April 2013 - A $2bn experiment on the space station has made observations that could prove to be the first signs of dark matter, a mysterious component of the Universe.
    See also:

    Scientists find hint of dark matter from cosmos
    Apr 3,`13 -- A $2 billion cosmic ray detector on the International Space Station has found the footprint of something that could be dark matter, the mysterious substance that is believed to hold the cosmos together but has never been directly observed, scientists say.
     
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    They should be using those 'night goggles'...
     
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    Granny says dat don't look like dark matter to her - dat looks like a copper thing-a-ma-jiggy...
    :grandma:
    Dark matter experiment CDMS sees three tentative clues
    15 April 2013 - Researchers have revealed the first potential hints of the elusive material called dark matter at an underground laboratory in the US.
     

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