The state of the vaccines

Absolutely. Well said. And these lies do kill, and they will also make of Covid-19 a permanent endemic problem without the opportunity to eradicate it (a wasted opportunity because our hugely efficacious vaccine would have otherwise eradicated it if the population cooperated), which will result in permanent economic damage (while the main reason people figuratively - and even literally - take upon arms against epidemiological control measures, supposedly is the economy. Talk about shooting ourselves in the foot.

But like I said, I'm exhausted both here and in my professional life. I'm fed-up with Covid-19 and the ineptitude of governments and citizens, and I'm experiencing burn out and an aversion for the topic.

 

I've no idea what you are talking about.

 

I am involved with a group that is slowly taking legal action in this regard. As Facebook and Twitter have learned, social platforms are responsible for the content on their sites.

 

The moderators here did take down a post that had blatant and dangerous lies about the vaccines. But I've seen others standing. Maybe it's a question of reporting. The moderators can't read all the thousands of posts we have have here.

 

To be honest, I'm getting my vaccine today.

I've had the appointment all week and I've been dreading it.

I'm not sure which one I'm having out of AstraZeneca or Moderna, but my appointment's this afternoon.

I'm full of pizza and ice cream and it's not even 11 am; I'm sort of doing this feeling like a lamb to the slaughter and I'm worried I'd have an allergic reaction and die, so I'm indulging in comfort food randomness.
But I'm not chickening out, and convincing myself I've put worse things into my body in a wild reckless youth experimenting with drugs and alcohol.

If all goes to plan, I'm to have two doses; and I've got both of those appointments, the first being this afternoon, the 2nd being in August.

 

Everyone I've spoken to who have had the AZ have had either relatively mild side effects such as feeling like having a bad cold or feeling tired for a day and others had no side effects at all, not even a sore arm. Relax your arm fully when the injection is given and you won't feel a thing and it will lessen the arm pain afterwards

 

I just saw the government flyer online that I'm expecting to get today; it says "up to four weeks, headaches, seek urgent attention"...
My family's pretty much had theirs short of one brother who's refusing because the centre isn't close enough, and he has a car and spoke of not wishing to drag out of his way to a leafy suburb on the other side of Croydon he Sunday drives to anyway so I think he just doesn't want to risk getting the vaccine; I mean, when I heard that, I literally said "I should be so lucky, Caterham, wow; I gotta go to St Thomas to get mine!" I said.

I have too have to leave the neighbourhood to do it, but not to the other side of town where I could drive to if I had a car.
My options were Wimbledon "pass", Dulwhich "pass", St. Thomas Hospital in City of Westminster 8 miles away, and was like "at least I know where that one is, so I too have to leave the neighbourhood to get vaccinated, but I have to head into Westminster - but I'm still doing it.
Ah, City of Westminster, a place I've not been to unless I had to in just over 5 years, a place that was once before that near and dear to me -then Brexit happened, Soho changed and everybody everywhere started marching on it; I believe I've only been to Westminster for work or passing through it to get to the airport (and again coming home) since 2016; so; IDK how my body'll feel but would be nice to touch base with Piccadilly Circus/Japan Centre and Denmark St/Tin Pan Alley again.
See what's going on.

It's the same hospital that Boris Johnson had to go to when he had Covid and was hospitalised, that one by Big Ben.
I figure, if I do have a severe allergic reaction to it, what better place to be, than a hospital?

 

You'll be fine.

 

That's quite an adventure just for a jab. I was lucky that my choice of places were both less than a mile from home, at a pharmacy. Probably not the best place if there is are serious side effects.. Had my first jab but not the second until mid June

 

Waiting now.

 

yep, people that move their arm or flex their muscles due to stress

or nurses that bend the needle are the biggest causes of sore arms

 

So far so good, some 4 hours and a half later but still 4 weeks until I'm out of the woods with this jab; sore arm, muscular injection though, so, no problem there, and the soreness isn't so much that it hurts or anything.

Any minor headache or whatever ache or any mild temperature however; has me on high alert, so, I've had funner nights, says the hypochondriac in me; I know me; I'm usually pretty good at worrying myself sometimes, so with this vaccination in my body, I'm on high alert analysing every little ache and pain I'd have probably have gotten anyway, all except the sore arm, that's just because the jab was a muscular jab.

I heard I had a choice today but they only offered one and the hospital had 3 vaccination centres working there and I guess I'd have had to re book and get sent to the testing centre that had the one I wanted 'since today I learned the choice was mine', but there I was, already there and booked and waiting to go/have it done with, so I took the one they had; PfizerBiotech's one, out of a choice between that, AstraZeneca and Moderna; since my choice was Moderna and I was told Moderna and PfizerBiotech had the same risk, I felt better about taking it.

FB do this in the UK/UK FB Photo Frame; here's mine.


UK is making us have 2 doses, and any side effects can come on by your the 1st or 2nd dose equally, so it's like (since I'm still scared but have done it anyway because the greater good or whatever/bigger picture that bigger than all my fears even though I have them) I've got to do 2 x having the vaccine done, which mean 2 x 4 weeks of being on edge making for a grand total of 8 weeks; but one day, I'd look back (I hope) and feel glad about having it.

I don't know if other countries are doing 2 doses but mine is.

They say you're pretty much protected after dose #1 but dose #2 is to double down/secure it/be even more vaccinated, or something.
I got both my appointments at the same time because that's how we do it here (maybe everywhere too) but, I was told today my 2nd dose might be sooner than the appointment because of reasons like a batch that wasn't used might need to be used before the expiry date, so I have my 2nd dose booked anyway, but was told today that that may change and be sooner.

 

It's not like they gave me a lollipop or anything; well, I did get a sticker.

 

When I got there, police were just closing off Westminster Bridge to traffic (for some reason) which meant I had to walk the rest of the way which was under the railway bridge for London Waterloo/not a big deal, just yards really; crossing the street twice because of the Park Plaza Hotel on the Southern Approach to Westminster Bridge (like a minute's walk), but nonetheless, my bus bound for Marble Arch had to stop there where I needed to be anyway.

When I came out, the bridge was completely closed to traffic (except for cyclists, they were crossing), so as I was crossing again to get my bus home and took full advantage of the opportunity and snapped this.

(Big Ben)...
Not sure if I've been there to see it like this before all covered up or not, all I know is, I have now.

I wonder what happened? Do they do that if the PM's there? IDK.
I doubt it was for a movie as those come with signs and stuff and are done off peak, not in the middle of the day.
Some reason why the police were closing the bridge to traffic when I got there, I just couldn't see why, it's not like I saw a collision or anything, they just starting closing it as I arrived and it was closed when I came out (without any signs, just police bikes stopping traffic).

 

Ahem, Elizabeth tower.

 

Probably because Boris and his latest baby mama got married in Westminster Cathedral yesterday.

 

I know, but, still.

Nobody asks me where the Elizabeth Tower is...

I once got asked which direction Big Ben was by a tourist, standing at Trafalgar Square, and from there, you could see it - so I showed.
said something like
"Sure, it's right up there" and pointed it out to them.

I know what it's called, but, people still call it Big Ben.

 

Probably... now that I learn about it and think about it, it's better than being turned around on the bridge - just close the whole bridge.

Wow... That's the largest in the UK (It's on the news now)...
Largest Catholic Cathedral in the UK?
I thought St. Paul's was bigger personally, and that York had the biggest, but, I wouldn't say Westminster Abbey was the biggest anything except gathering of important graves...
And since when was that Catholic? IDK, I heard on the news he got married in Westminster Abbey, but... Just now it's talking about the UK's biggest Catholic Cathedral on Sky News.

Secret wedding! lol... If it was secret, why close traffic, why not just do it but not go outside.
Didn't Number 10 have a tunnel or a war room or underground way to get there that Churchill built?
IDK, low key means closing the bridge to traffic though, damn. That's Pimp.

 

Look, the 4 weeks with attention to headache are because of the risk of cerebral venous sinus thrombosis, but this issue only applies to the AstraZeneca vaccine (and to the J&J). You had the Moderna, an excellent and safe vaccine. It hasn't been causing cerebral venous sinus thrombosis. You'll be fine. Most likely the governmental leaflets will indicate this surveillance for this risk across the board, without differentiating between the vaccines, not to give the impression that they are endorsing one of them over others. But you had Moderna. No worries. Relax. Moderna is American technology, haha. Phenomenal. Much much much better than the AstraZeneca one; much more efficacious and much safer. There is a reason why the FDA did not approve the AstraZeneca in the United States but did approve the Moderna.

This said, the second dose of Moderna has more side effects than the first one. It's not equal. However these side effects while annoying are completely benign and go away in 48 to 72 hours.

 

I had PfizerBiotech's.

 

Just as good. And everything I said about the Moderna is also true of the Pfizer/BioNTech except that it's not just American technology. It's American + German technology.
No risk of cerebral venous sinus thrombosis. And the good news is that the second dose of the Pfizer/BioNTech is usually not as rich in side effects as the Moderna.
Again, you'll be fine.

 

Yup. And it's an old folks disease. Out of the 600,000 Americans listed dead with COVID, less than 300 were under the age of 18, that is, zero, until you get to the fourth decimal point. Yet, we closed schools, childcare, they lost a year and half of school, the isolation has their suicide rates going through the roof, and now there is a drive to inject them with an experimental vaccine? Insanity.

"YES, VACCINES ARE ONLY ONE WAY TO ACQUIRE IMMUNITY": Johns Hopkins Prof: Half Of Americans Have Natural Immunity; Dismissing It Is ‘Biggest failure Of Medical Leadership.’

Big Money in Vaccines.

"Rand Paul": The science proves people with natural immunity should skip COVID vaccines.

“To dictate that a person recovered from COVID-19 with natural immunity also submit to a vaccine — without scientific evidence — is nothing more than hubris. If you have no proof that people who acquired natural immunity are getting or transmitting the disease in real numbers, then perhaps you should just be quiet. People are not getting re-infected in large numbers. And that’s not me saying so, that’s the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, quietly admitting that on its website. One thing they also admitted, while at first trying to hide it, was that there are no studies showing that getting the vaccine if you already have natural immunity is of any benefit at all. They can’t show that, because it has not yet been studied. It took my friend Congressman Thomas Massie to make them admit this, by the way. They originally denied their own studies on this.”

“We know this. Doctors know this. Scientists who design vaccines know this. Vaccines are created to attempt to replicate the immunity we get from having been infected with a disease. I want all the science deniers to read that again. Vaccines are a replacement for natural immunity. They aren’t necessarily better. In fact, natural immunity from measles confers lifelong immunity and the vaccine immunity wanes over a few decades. I choose to follow the science with COVID, rather than submit to fear-mongering.”

"Related, from" The Lancet:

"We believe science is real. And Rand Paul’s track record on Covid is vastly better than Fauci’s. Or the CDC’s."

Nature: Had COVID? You’ll probably make antibodies for a lifetime.

https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/452853/

 

Yes, it seems like human stupidity is not a monopoly of the 21st century. It is sad to see that it persists, even though science has evolved more and more. One would expect that an age of enlightenment would come about, brought in by the progress of modern science, but sadly no, people continue to practice the same stupidities their ancestors were already practicing in the 1800's and first half of the 1900's.