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Stalin was a mass murderer, who made deals with hitler.

 

right....

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so what do you think about all of the anti-Western and anti-American posts and threads being posted all the time by members from Russia or with pro-Russian sympathies?

 

You do not have to read the idiotic propaganda in Western media. Everything that you know about Stalin - lies.
For Example.
The number Russian, during the reign of Stalin increased according
Census on average 1.3-1.5 million. per year.
1926 - 113 700 000. (146 600 000. - The total population of the USSR)
1939 - 133 million. (170.6 million).
1959 - 159 300 000. (208 800 000).
Mortality in Russia under Stalin decreased almost 3 times (10.1 per 1 ths. inhab. in 1950, compared with 29.1 in 1913)
Addiction under Stalin was not, because there was no drug mafia.
Prostitution under Stalin was seen as a form of parasitic existence, and its organized forms were completely destroyed.
Under Stalin, illiteracy has been eliminated. Literacy has risen to 89.1% (1932).
Under Stalin managed to fully restore the welfare of the citizens after 3 devastating wars and multiply it several times, but, in spite of the war, 2 times to overtake the Americans in the growth rate. And it's heavy external conditions and without any help.
Under Stalin, General volume of industrial production per capita in the Soviet Union increased by 4 times.
By the end of Stalin's reign in 1953 the gold reserves of the USSR increased 6.5 times.
Under Stalin Since 1933 unemployment in the Soviet Union did not exist.
Under Stalin, the real incomes of workers in 1940 increased to 2.7 times, the peasants - by 2.4 times.
In 1947, the Soviet Union, the first after the war of the states of the world, canceled a card system. And every year since 1948 - until 1954 - to lower prices for food and consumer goods.
Under Stalin, and later in Soviet Union a house provided by the State free of charge, in perpetuity.
The number of doctors has increased in 1950 compared to 1940 by 1.5 times.
The number of scientific workers in 1950 increased compared with 1940 by 1.5 times.
The number of scientific institutions in 1950 increased by 40% compared to 1940
The number of university students in 1950 increased by 50% compared to 1940

.....and so on.


Through declassified archival data, lies about "billions of innocent victims" - elementary unmasked.
According to official reports for Khrushchev for the period from 1921 to early 1954 for counterrevolutionary and other especially dangerous state crimes were sentenced to death 642,980 people to prison - 2,369,220, to exile and expulsion - 765.180 (total: 3,777,380 pers).



Once again - all that you know about Stalin from the Western media - a lie.

 

It was never a secret that he was a sympathiser.
But the queen saluting here has no context whatsoever. "The Sun" certainly sold a few more papers that day I guess.

 

he was a mass murderer, no different than hitler.

You just like him cause he didnt nurse from breast of the global banking cartel.

 

Not true. There is no anti-American messages from Russia.

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Do I understand correctly that the arguments and logic no available to you?

 

It is in their blood.

 

I do not consider your claims to be logic.

 

almost every day there is a new anti-American thread.

 

Is being anti-American foreign policy and economic expansionism a crime in your books? I think it is and I believe it blinds you completely.

I see a number of members here who aren't pro-Russian at all but who, on the contrary, disfavour (with reason imo) US foreign policy and global financial greed and arrogance. They get involved in threads about Russia as an anti-dote to the hard core of those other members who openly troll here on behalf of Uncle Sam. There are also a number of members who favour honesty and facts and intelligent debate above blind flag waving (no matter what the facts say).

I'm in the former camp, whereas you're in the latter camp and heckle, flame and troll anyone who opposes your narrow mindset.

In my experience, the Russian members here are usually pretty well informed, polite, demonstrate a fine sense of humour and irony and show great patience in light of the fact that their words are regularly twisted and purposefully misunderstood by - amongst several others - you Ronstar.

 

And who was worse, Churchill, Roosevelt, Hitler or Stalin........ all of them supported by the real behind the scenes powers that profit immensely off both sides in the wars..

 

Stalin and Hitler are tied.

 

Further to the above:

Source

I rest my case M'laud.

 

I don't know that much about the political aspects of the Soviet Union, but what I do know is that Lenin and his side kick Trotsky killed approx. twenty million Christians, and that twenty thousand of them were bishops, priests and monks. Also five thousand churches were burned, many with people still inside. When the Bolsheviks were ready to destroy Saint Basil's the people freaked. It is still standing today.

Anyway I think that many of those who Stalin purged, were the same ones who committed the mass atrocities under Lenin/Trotsky. I'm not sure though, but if so, it would account as to why those who admire the ideals of Lenin and Trotsky today would see nothing wrong with them, and yet are so adamantly against Stalin.

 

historical revisionist propaganda, and justification of mass-crimes against humanity.

the Nazis also said that many of the Jews they murdered, were Communists so "it was ok".

 

The truth you call - the thread anti-American? ...But ... if the US government policy is based on a lie ....

 

Come, Come now, Russia was busy conquering Estonia and Latvia and being a war like country when America was establishing a Constitutional Republic. Russia has been at war externally or internally ever since.

 

You can prove your nonsense. Or so you told the Western media?

 

even Russia admits Stalin was a mass-murderer

 

Your principle - do not need this "logic," do not need these facts do not need proof? likewise - in totalitarian sects.

 

Who told you about this? CNN? In Russia like Stalin.

 

Says the guy who idolizes a mass murderer and totalitarian communist dictator.

There are a lot of things Russians and Americans can agree on, I recommend you focus on those things, if you're really trying to influence American citizens.

Have a nice day

 

I have an academic interest. Many times I have asked in this forum prove the crimes of Stalin. But no one was able to do that. Maybe you'll able?
(Links to articles in the media and Wikipedia - are not accepted. Only the facts)

 

Joseph Stalin (1878-1953) was the dictator of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR) from 1929 to 1953. Under Stalin, the Soviet Union was transformed from a peasant society into an industrial and military superpower. However, he ruled by terror, and millions of his own citizens died during his brutal reign. Born into poverty, Stalin became involved in revolutionary politics, as well as criminal activities, as a young man. After Bolshevik leader Vladimir Lenin (1870-1924) died, Stalin outmaneuvered his rivals for control of the party. Once in power, he collectivized farming and had potential enemies executed or sent to forced labor camps. Stalin aligned with the United States and Britain in World War II (1939-1945) but afterward engaged in an increasingly tense relationship with the West known as the Cold War (1946-1991). After his death, the Soviets initiated a de-Stalinization process.

 

i proved it to you many times, but you keep denying Stalins crimes, the Holodomor, the Holocaust, etc etc...