The Tea Party is a fraud!

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  1. Johnny-C

    Johnny-C Well-Known Member

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    Sadly, the Tea Party contains a certain number of powerful and loud extremists, which to many other Americans appears to be very problematic overall.

    We see what the Tea Party influence (whatever that is truly comprised of) has done to the Republicans and Congress; it isn't something that sells well to MOST Americans.
     
  2. Third Eyientist

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    They have joined with the establishment Republicans. There is no doubt....
     
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    Yes we've hijacked the republican party because we are not coordinated enough nationwide to run our own party. Sadly many people who are calling themselves Tea Party obviously are not and are putting a bad rep on us. It doesn't help that the left has put a target on our back because we are perceived, correctly, as a threat.

    They should try and beat us with their stances on political positions yet they have to resort to branding us as racist or hood toting fools which simply is not true. Unfortunately when you have the majority of media telling people that everyday there are many who pick up on it.
     
  4. Johnny-C

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    Even so, such an extreme approach will lead to your movement ultimately being mitigated or marginalized by other Americans. It is simply a matter of time combined with the overall increase of the American public's awareness, which will lead to the same. It is inevitable.
     
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    Why would we want to join with a bunch of kooky social libs?
     
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    No, just Constitutionally mandated government at the border. ;)
     
  7. Third Eyientist

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    Libertarians are not libs.... Educate yourself....
     
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    We were marginalized the instant we got the first person elected to office. Not gonna get much worse than it is today.

    However, I've noticed our meetings increasing in size, not decreasing which tells me that we are becoming an agreeable alternative to many people displeased with the current direction our country is going.
     
  9. Third Eyientist

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    I agree that the government should protect the borders.
     
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    I agree that the government should protect the borders.
     
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    Why would anyone choose to join with a bunch of social retards.... The Tea Party stole the best ideas from the Libertarian Party and now, they make us look like a bunch of social retards... THX.
     
  12. Johnny-C

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    You and those in your group, will face and be affected by the same political realities as all others.

    Either the American people will support your movement or they will not. Most likely, you will garner support commensurate with the value of your agenda as communicated to the populace.

    If your vision (path) is destructive and/or extremist... people aren't buying it.
     
  13. Third Eyientist

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    I don't agree with this assumption... You are forgetting the most common American trait. Ignorance....
     
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    I think people can be fooled sometimes and for a time; but that isn't always largely possible.

    One way or the other, things can/will 'change'.
     
  15. Unifier

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    The people, themselves, have never sold out. And that's what's important. As long as they believe in their cause, they're going to keep kicking out the bums and replacing them with fresh blood until they find candidates that have the guts to stand up for the people they represent without wavering or buckling.


    Exactly. And we've seen what the opposite approach looks like. We end up with OWS. Violent bums wreaking havoc and carnage and not really doing much else. What exactly did those fools accomplish other than a giant failed collectivist social experiment in a glorfied campout? They didn't elect a single official into office. Not one. Their revolution was nothing more than a temper tantrum. Sure, we might not have had the success we wanted with the results of the 2010 elections, but at least our guys got into office. That's a signficant start. We did exactly what we were supposed to. We didn't like the way the country was being run, and we elected different people. Like you said, that's the whole purpose of the system.


    See, I'm not sure that what you are describing is an accurate representation of the Tea Party. Which seems to be the ongoing problem. I just have a hard time believing that freedom is out of style. I have a hard time believing that most people in America don't want smaller government and lower taxes. Most things outside of these two categories are false representations of the Tea Party. And those always seem to be the things you hear people complaining about - straw men.
     
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    The Tea Party has never has never condoned the war on drugs or the global American police state.
     
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    I'm for reasonable approaches to resolving America's problems; that is NOT what I'm seeing from Tea Party 'influenced' Republicans today. I'm moving as far and hard from the Tea Party as I can; I think corruption and legal bribery is hurting those on the Right a lot more than those on the Left.

    Freedom? I don't think the Right is really about that, when all things are equally measured. Conservatives surely have things in mind that they are absolutely obsessed with controlling. The Republicans, Conservatives and Tea Party (RCTP) really aren't about "freedom" overall... they are very selective about it, if they are at all.
     
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    Sorry, we didn't realize you had a patent on certain ideas. [​IMG]

    Libertarians give themselves far too much credit. Get over yourselves.
     
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    Correct, we do not condone those things.
     
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    Correct, we do not condone those things.
     
  21. Third Eyientist

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    Thanks, we appreciate being fake Republicans now...
     
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    Okay, see, you need to be specific here when you're addressing these things. Otherwise I can't confirm or deny if these are actually accurate representations of the Tea Party/conservatives or just straw men. If they are accurate, then we can discuss them. But if they are straw men, then that's good news because it means that what you're not comfortable with is not even a Tea Party view. It's just a misunderstanding. So we actually have fewer conflicts of interest than it appears.

    So what exactly are you talking about here?
     
  23. Third Eyientist

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    Great idea. Maybe we should start with Mr. Perry....
     

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