The true face of the Muslim faith....

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by rkhames, Aug 27, 2013.

  1. lizarddust

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    'Liberals' (another stupid American term) have also blocked or been against any pro Christian (or any other religion for that matter) laws when their secular society is threated. Why should Islam be any different?
     
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    Liberal are attempting to block what they consider anti-Islam legislation. If the legislation had been to pass the Ten Commandments as ten Constitutional Amendments, the Liberals would yell to high heaven. They would claim that the Legislation is a violation of the Constitution requirement of a separation of Church and State. But they have no problem with Sharia Law being instituted in the US. Common sense would say that Liberal would support anything that kept secular law from being pass in the US. But Liberals have never been accused of having common sense.
     
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    Your post makes no sense at all. Who are these 'Liberals'? Are they at government level?

    Please answer my question. How?
     
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    rkhames Well-Known Member

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    Look, you obviously know nothing about the US and our political system, and I am not in the mood to give you a civics lessons.
     
  5. lizarddust

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    Because you don't have the answers.

    I'll ask you again,, how can Sharia law be implemented into America?
     
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    You're really dizzy the link that you claimed I failed to give you is on my previous post. It's the same link. But then I really don't expect much from you anyway.

    Most of them have stated that individuals who insult their religeon should be put to death. Again I've asked you how many of these American Muslums since 2009 have put to death any Americans strictly because they made fun of the Islamic religeon.


    This link proves nothing. It shows a mixed list and there are many instances of deaths cause by
    Islamics who lived outside the U.S. You probably don't understand that the terrorists involved in 911 were not American muslims. This list goes back to 1973. It also includes the assaults by the Nation of Islam an organization formed in the U.S in 1930. But the Nation of Islam is split from traditionional Muslims with huge disagreements. Muslims in the U.S are not homogenous although many in the U.S. claim they're all alike. This is the same kind of racist thinking that claims all African Americans are alike.
     
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    The answer to your question is Yes, but also Muslims buy judges and swing court cases in their favor. And one judge can impose HIS brand of law over the objections of millions of people. Happens all the time. Example > Proposition 187 in California was voted in by 59% (22 million people) of the people of California . It was annuled by ONE MAN ( a federal judge) - and judges have been known to take bribes haven't they ?

    Welcome to the real world. (AKA "reality). :-D
     
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    The statement you present from the Pew research poll is not the point. What the opinions of %s of Muslim-Americans is one way or the other has little to do with Islamization or Muslim terrorism. That all comes from a hard core of Muslim extremists who can exert enormous pressure, and enact changes just by calling people
    "racists", threatening lawsuits, filing lawsuits, boycotting, protesting, etc
     
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    What's the point of the question ? Surely, there have been some number of people killed because they made fun of Islam or somehow disgraced it, in the view of the killers. That number could be researched and dug out, but for what ? The point of this thread is the threat that Islam poses for the future, and how many people may perish in years to come, without preventive action, not how many already have.
     
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    What a lame question. Isn't the answer obvious ? Who implements law in America ? It is implemented by all 3 of the branches of govt. Presidents and governors (by executive order). Legislatures (by passing laws). Judiciary (when judges make rulings)

    One example (among many) - New Jersey lower court judge Joseph Charles, in denying a restraining order to a woman after her divorce, ruled that her ex-husband felt he had behaved according to his Muslim beliefs — and that he did not have “criminal desire to or intent to sexually assault” his wife.

    This is preposterous. Because this Muslim loon is going by the Koran which says (Koran 4;34) it is acceptable to beat your wife, he is being seen as not having criminal intent ? :roll: Of course he had criminal intent. He openly admitted he beat her. That is a crime in America (battery) and no non-American legal system (the Koran or any other) can trump American (in this case, New Jersey) law. This idiot was, of course overruled in the appellate court, but this case shows that Sharia law can succeed to overrule US law, sometimes.

    http://creepingsharia.wordpress.com...udge-rules-islamic-sharia-law-trumps-u-s-law/
     
  11. lizarddust

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    What a stupid response and the answer is definitely not obvious. You gave an example of one divorce, in one state, presided over by one judge. How many divorces are there in America annually, and how many are effected by any kind of Muslim law? I'd love to see the court transcripts of the case you mentioned.

    How will Sharia Law supersede the current system of laws in America? By the democratic process, by brute force, by revolution, by the force of sheer numbers? Do tell.

    You've just contradicted yourself. This is what happens when one is paranoid and not thinking clearly.
     
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    Hog wash. The Qur'an does not permit violence once a divorce is in progress. The judge needs to find some other line of work. Hand that idiot a mop and bucket. He is not bright enough to be a lawyer, let alone a judge.

    There are remedies for idiots like that.
     
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    What a STUPID response. Yes, I gave ONE example. SO ????? How many examples do you expect to get ? You want me to write a BOOK of examples all in one post, just to answer your idotic question, that even a 5th grade kid wouldn't have to ask ? So how many examples do you want ? Six ? Eleven ? Seventeen ? Forty-two ?

    As for "How many divorces are there in America annually ?" >> IT DOESN'T MATTER. This is not a matter of numbers of divorces or Sharia law cases. ANY numbers of Sharia law being accepted are steps in the direction of Sharia law being inserted into American culture. THAT is the point we're talking about here, not number comparisions. Get it ?

    And you'd love to see the court transcripts of the New Jersey restraining order case ? Yeah ? LOL. Why is that, lizarddust ? And BTW, it happens to be one of the most openly discussed cases in America. It's proceedings are no secret. I'm sure you could get a copy if you tried.

    Good lord, dude. Now you're asking "How will Sharia Law supersede the current system of laws in America?" Are you dense ? That is exactly what was just explained to you quite adequately in the very post that you are quoting. Just didn't get it, huh ? Still wondering ? Pheeeeeeww!! (high-pitched whistle)

    No I didn't contradict anything. I meant no non-American legal system (the Koran or any other) can trump American law, AND GET AWAY WITH IT. Judge bonehead's decision was overturned in the appellate court (which I already mentioned before).

    Next this guy is going to ask for is for me to draw him a picture of all this. :roll:
     
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    I don't get what you just said. You started out calling what I said "hogwash", and than you agree with me that the judge was an idiot ? Been drinking a bit tonight ?

    And where did you see this stuff about the Koran allegedly not permitting violence once a divorce is in progress ?
    Got a source for that ?
     
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    Gays are hung in the ME countries...... tho't everyone knew that.
     
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    Opposing something and actually being stoned to death isn't quite the same thing........
     
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    You sure got that right...... insult their prophet and you'll get death threats and sometimes they were carried out.......
     
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    Which I believe is one of Obama's goals.........
     
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    If and when Islam takes over in Europe, they'll be controlling a lot more than a woman's uterus.
     
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    I remember that case and it sent chills up my spine that an American judge would side w/an x-husband beating his x-wife b/c of the Koran. It was overturned, but the time will come when cases like this won't be b/c of the liberal judges........

    Several yrs ago I watched a documentary about Islam. There were hidden cameras in the mosque here in the US. You could see and hear the cleric screeching that within time Sharia law will slowly replace the U.S. Constitution........
     
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    The trouble is, you can connect all the dots and these people still won't see it......... b/c they simply don't want to. They have a block of concrete b/t their ears and nothing penetrates......

    Good posts, btw....... good night.
     
  22. lizarddust

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    Hmmmmmm,, still no answer. How can a group of people that totals about .0.7% of the American population change the entire American law system?

    How?

    No she didn't. Show me where?

    There you go,, you are doing it again. More contradictions.
     
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    Their population will not stay static. It will grow and concentrate in urban areas. That's why major European cities have major Muslim problems.

    Don't you pay attention to world events? Europeans will lose democratic control of their major city gov't's slowly but surely.
     
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    Well, it went from drinking the clean water to failing to convert for forgiveness to insulting the prophet by not converting. Insulting the pedophile warlord is the legal charge. You should read the article:

    http://nypost.com/2013/08/25/sentenced-to-death-for-a-sip-of-water/
     
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    LOL!! He can get stoned in Amsterdam and then stoned in Pakistan.
     

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