The Truth About Police Violence Against Black Men-Facts Are Stubborn Things

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  1. Wehrwolfen

    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    By Mark Tapson
    September 22, 2017

    In the wake of violent protests in St. Louis following the acquittal of white former police officer Jason Stockley for the murder of black suspect Anthony Lamar Smith, a Cornell University doctoral candidate in philosophy has put forth an argument you’re unlikely to hear in the mainstream media. Writing at National Review Online, Philippe Lemoine marshals actual facts and logic to demonstrate that, contrary to received wisdom, black males in the United States do not suffer a disproportionate degree of police brutality.
    The largely undisputed narrative about cops and black men goes like this: black males are victimized daily all over America by police harassment and brutality, even when innocent, and there is an epidemic of police shootings of unarmed black men. This narrative is false, says Lemoine, and “distracts from far more serious problems that black Americans face.” Furthermore, the news media acceptance of it “poisons the relations between law enforcement and black communities throughout the country and results in violent protests that destroy property and sometimes even claim lives.”
    The reality, Lemoine declares, is that a random black male is “overwhelmingly unlikely” to be the victim of police violence, and any disparity that does exist between the violence blacks and whites experience in their encounter with cops “is consistent with the racial gap in violent crime, suggesting that the role of racial bias is small.”
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    It’s not even true that black men are beaten on a regular basis by the police, or even pulled over constantly without reason. Using data from the Police-Public Contact Survey, based on a nationally representative sample of more than 70,000 U.S. residents age 16 or older, Lemoine notes that “black men are less likely than white men to have contact with the police in any given year.” Only 1.5 percent of black men have more than three contacts with the police in any given year, he points out – only marginally more than the 1.2 percent of white men who do.
    Actual injuries by the police are so rare that they cannot even be estimated precisely, says Lemoine. “The data suggest that only 0.08 percent of black men are injured by the police each year, approximately the same rate as for white men. A black man is about 44 times as likely to suffer a traffic-related injury.” Again, these figures include instances in which violence is legally justified.
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    His clear-eyed argument echoes the similarly fact-based presentation of Heather Mac Donald’s recent, essential read, The War on Cops: How the New Attack on Law and Order Makes Everyone Less Safe. That sobering book warns that an “academic victimology industry” and a complicit media have stoked Black Lives Matter hatred of the police and propelled the current “anti-cop narrative to powerful mainstream status.”
    Facts may be stubborn things, as John Adams said, but facts alone are not especially effective against a deeply entrenched, cultural narrative protected and promoted by forces such as the media. Smashing that false perception of an epidemic of police violence against black men will take a combination of the facts with an emotionally powerful counter-narrative – and enough minds that are receptive to truth.

    Source: http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/267943/truth-about-police-violence-against-black-men-mark-tapson

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    Facts? Facts? Don't Progressives determine what facts are? In many ways we seem to be moving to a fact free political and media system.
    One thing I've seen numerous times, first hand, is how the radical left deliberately encourages black males to behave badly towards the police, verbally, disrespectfully, overtly disobeying the laws, running from the police, getting into fistfights with the police, threatening the police with weapons, etc. That makes it more likely that an encounter with the police will end badly, which is exactly what the radical left wants.
    Obama is said to be the first 'Post-Racial' President. Obama was going to cure the Earth of climate change, calm the seas and lower the waters including moving America onto a new, better, more perfect path!
    WTF happened? Of course it couldn't be that Obama lied to America - he's the messiah!
    I guess the only explanation to everyone who isn't black, is it's RACIST.
    Progressive Marxist Leftist media, academia and Hollywood perpetuate the false narrative about racist cops and criminal justice system preying on innocent Blacks, to incite and fuel Black anger and hate, which they exploit during elections.
    In other words it's all about political power for the racism industrial complex.... Keep Blacks angry against racist America and racist White Republicans.
     
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    Oh, of course, not.

    Mark Fuhrman who boasted of committing police crimes against blacks only a few thousand times, why, that was just a fluke. Mere puffery. A total pretense. Why, it was actually fake news before fake news was a politically correct term.

    https://stopthedrugwar.org/taxonomy/term/27

    https://www.aclu.org/issues/criminal-law-reform/reforming-police-practices/police-corruption

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...nions-keep-abusive-cops-on-the-street/383258/

    http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/10/the-police-are-still-out-of-control-112160





    Anybody who believes the fairy tale that police do not engage in such corruption, please lemme know who you are as I've got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell to you.
     
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    Wehrwolfen Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    That bridge has been sold to Democrats long before you were born... But I've got some beach front property in Arizona and Nevada for sale right now that I can sell you.
    Bringing up Mark Fuhrman that retired from the LA PD over 20 years ago is no longer an authority on the subject. But if that's the case why didn't you bring up Rodney King, or Trayvon Martin?
     
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    The OP was long on facts and figures while your response was long on rhetoric with no facts or figures.
     
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    What facts? Those manufactured because of selective enforcement of the law, planted evidence, and other forms of police corruption?
     

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