THE UKRAINIAN ARMY HAS BEEN DEFEATED. WHAT’S LEFT IS MOP-UP

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  1. UntilNextTime

    UntilNextTime Well-Known Member

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    Fail. Every single one, bar one from Wikipedia? Geez, you cast your net wide in terms of references. In particular, ones that can be easily edited by anyone.
    Come to think of it, I wonder why Russia went into those countries and the way history recorded them, just like this current conflict, do you know why? Russia was routing out Nazis, Russia didn't want the land, just the Nazi's heads on a pike. So, because those battles did not result in the absorption of lands, it's perceived by people such as yourself to be a loss. Aww, not fair. Let's play again he asks.
     
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  2. UntilNextTime

    UntilNextTime Well-Known Member

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    How does it go...:roflol::roflol::roflol:
     
  3. UntilNextTime

    UntilNextTime Well-Known Member

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    I doubt it. The world that has been revolving around a fiat currency (the US dollar) that is not backed by any standard since Nixon in 71' sold the gold that was the back standard. Since this occurred, the US dollar began to slowly die. This is where Putin brings the 'A' game up a notch. If anyone wants his country's gas and oil, they'll have to pay in gold or in Rubles. Didn't you get that memo? Ooops!
     
  4. zoom_copter66

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    $$$US began to slowly "die" ?


    US $$$ is the world currency....even gold is traded in it...

    And will be for the foreseeable future.

    1971 called....they want you back....:).
     
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  5. UntilNextTime

    UntilNextTime Well-Known Member

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    Not really up to speed are you?
     
  6. Durandal

    Durandal Well-Known Member Donor

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    No Russian gold, though. Sanctions. :)
     
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    Giftedone Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not sure why you are obsessed with Stalin .. could well be a Fruedian thing but think it may simply be your fondness for authoritarianism and Tyrants ... and the occasional act of terror .. as long as it is committed by the side you favor.
     
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    They're delaying it because they haven't been vaccinated and Putin won't let them in. :lol:
     
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    The Red Army is waiting for the roads to be cleared, littered with heavily soiled Depends adult diapers that were disposed of by the Azovs & Co.
     
  10. zalekbloom

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    You wrote the best defense of Russia for lazy and poorly educated.
    For lazy – because Wikipedia always prints references to its sources, and only lazy people would say “Wikipedia? Geez!” without trying to read the sources.
    For poorly educated – all these facts are taught on history lessons in non communist countries.

    You wonder why Russia went into those countries? There are Russian explanation and non-Russian explanations.

    In 1939 Russia claimed it invaded Poland to save East Poland from Hitler, trying to keep secret that Stalin signed a pact with Hitler to divide East Europe between them:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Molotov–Ribbentrop_Pact

    In 1939 Russia attacked Finland claiming Finland wanted to start a war with Russia:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shelling_of_Mainila

    And the same with other Russian invasions, according to Russia all mentioned invasions was pure Russian defense – as today Ukraine invasion.

    I wonder who outside of Russia will believe yours: “Russia was routing out Nazis, Russia didn't want the land, just the Nazi's heads on a pike”.
    Russia invasion of Poland and Finland happened when Nazi Germany and Russia were the best friends. Russia sold military help while the West countries were fighting Hitler:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German–Soviet_Credit_Agreement_(1939)

    And why Russia fought Nazi Germany? Not because Nazi were fighting the West and murdering civilians, Russia fought Nazi Germany because the Russian best friend betrayed them and attacked them.
     
  11. ricmortis

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    Wrong, if Putin doesn't cave in, most other countries will find alternative gas sources. European Union already has set forth a plan to be free of Russian gas within 2 years. Keep on dreaming and attempting to promote misinformation.
     
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    The Mafialand is supplying China &India at a "discount" with its energy needs.....which is wide open to interpretation?.....I'll hazard a guess the Chinos have bent the Mafiosi over a barrel minus the Vaseline....and it's supplied for next to nothing.:)
     
  13. zalekbloom

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    In Russia everything is better, bigger, faster.
    Russians have the fastest watches, the biggest midgets and the longest "special operations".
     
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    Nah, "liberate" isn't a valid excuse anymore for Putins acts. Nor is it ever the real reason behind invasions. It's always been used as a distraction.
     
  15. ToughTalk

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    Sounds very nazi-ish to invade and force your doctrine on these sorrounding nations...
     
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    Not sure it ever was a valid excuse - in of itself at least. What do you think was the real reason behind invasion ?
     
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    US been forcing its doctrine on nations for many years ... but would not call this Nazi-ish .. Sounds like general silliness to me :)
     
  18. ToughTalk

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    Well for one.

    USA > Russia. On so many levels it's ridiculous.

    Two...we have absolutely given conquered land back to hosting governments. Even those who dispise us. (you can look to Apghaghnistahn for the latest example)
     
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    No idea what you are blubbering about mate .. none of the above has any bearing on the fact that the US has been forcing its doctrine on nations for decades.
     
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    It means Iraq or Aphghanistan would be far better off if they governed themselves with us as a template as well as had stronger trade ties with us.

    United State > Russia.

    But to the second point, it's failry clear. We are not in the game of conquering nations. Russia is conquering land. That's what they are doing. The rest of the narrative is window dressing bullshit.
     
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    Don't have to conquor a nation to force doctrine on it... Don't have to take territory ... although this was done in the case of Kosovo.

    Your comments are abject nonsense ..showing little understanding of what is going on in the world.

    Iraq and Afghanistan were not allowed to govern themselves .. for a long long time. Lost and confused is your comment.
     
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    Kosovo is not part of the United States...lol. Tis not a State sir.

    Iraa and Afganistan were harboring terrorists. While I don't agree with us going in there. We left both places to be governmened by themselves.

    You don't really have an arguement here. Putin is doing a land grab. That's how simplistic this all is. It's a land grab, to expand Russia. He's admitted to such.
     
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    Hypersonic weapons are nearly ready. Are you disappointed? Would you prefer us to be at the mercy of the Russians?
     
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    Unless Ukraine invaded Russia first then its irrelevant.
     
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  25. ricmortis

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    Name one American that would like to move to Russia?

    Just about every Russian would die to move emmigrate to the USA.

    I wonder why? Brutal Dictatorship? No real Freedom of choices? The list goes on and on.
     
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