The US is becoming a dangerous place to live

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  1. Marine1

    Marine1 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    To a weak mind you could be right. It doesn't take much to set people off. But can't you say the same thing for the hate speech about the President and his followers. When you say someone should shoot him I'd like to blow up the White House, cut off his head, it could set someone off against the President and his followers. Maybe we all need to be more careful of the words we say.
     
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    I think the it started after the Viet Nam War. This is where guys got interduced to mind changing drugs. Where they had so many combat issues. It just multiplied with drugs from South America and all the prescription drugs people take. I wouldn't doubt over 80% of the population is on some kind of mind altering drug.
     
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    Umm... no. There are so many examples prior to this. Luby's, the UT bell tower. Lots of cases, actually. Folks go crazy. Lash out. It isn't new.
     
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    Actually, there are several incidents that predate this as well.
     
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    So who exactly is the blame for such? Those who own a legal product and do not commit harm to anyone? Or the individual that decides they are going to go out and hurt others for their own benefit?
     
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    And various individuals have been driven to commit acts of physical violence at the mere sight of a Donald Trump hat.

    Exactly what is the point attempting to be raised on the part of yourself?
     
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    Um...the shooter is to blame. Utterly amazing you would even ask such an asinine question. My lord...:roll:
     
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    If you are going to hold firearms manufacturers responsible for supplying the gun then we should also hold parents responsible for supplying the video games.
     
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    And I don't approve of that whatsoever, but we would be fools not to believe the amount of division Donald Trump has caused this country.
     
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    The uptick was because the NRA became a radical organization , supporting Politicians that made sure High Powered weapons of War could be easily obtained
     
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    Balto Well-Known Member

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    That wouldn't work, because the parents didn't develop the video game. Video game developers don't have to be developing such violent games. If culture is part of what is causing these mass shootings, then we need to start holding those who contribute to that culture accountable.
     
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    Like on a certain politicians twitter account....

    It's not about a mind being weak. Trump is obviously coming off as an influence to mass shooters. We saw that in the Christchurch manifesto, we see that in the latest manifesto. And its not hard to see why. When you incite your people to tell someone who immigrated here legally to go back to their country, you vilify a certain nationality or race, that provokes the worst to come to light that our nation has to offer. It's why I say if Trump really wanted to unite this country, he'd tone down the rallies, tone down the inflammatory rhetoric on Twitter, but obviously a nations unity is of no interest to him as its been demonstrated time and time again.

    That said, I'm hoping he shootings in El Paso and Dayton will pressure the Senate to pass bi-partisan gun legislation. Even then, the question becomes would Trump sign it?
     
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    By that logic there should be millions of people committing mass shootings, right?
     
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    1. The NRA was founded 148 years ago in 1871.
    2. The first semi-automatic gun was invented 134 years ago in 1885.
    3. Semi-automatic guns were readily available for 108 years before the1993 National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) was implemented and there were hardly any mass shootings before 1993.
    4. The vast majority of mass shootings have happened since the 1993 NICS background check system was implemented.
    5. A musket is a weapon of war.
    The NRA is not a radical organization. It is a defender of the 2nd Amendment.

    Educate yourself.
     
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    Where there is crime no progress can be made. Nobody will risk their life savings to start a business and by doing so provide jobs -- they're going to choose a safe place to do business with less risk to their life.

    First you have to wipe out the criminals.
     
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    "one is too many" is a poor principle to make major policy changes around.

    Private tragedies should not drive public policies.
     
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    There were also more paragraphs of environmentalist high cant than there were of anti immigrant claptrap
     
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    The division existed long before Donald Trump ever entered the race for president of the united states. He is merely a symptom, not a cause.
     
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    Explain why the majority of mass shootings are committed with handguns, rather than rifles.
     
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    One is too many....Try again
     
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    No civilized nation allows civilians to possess these weapons of war....The worst mass shooting involved ASSAULT Rifles...
     
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    The NRA is a terrorist organization...Preaching hatred and paranoia...They are Gun Nut Jihadists that have distorted the Second Amendment
     
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    When it can be shown which military in the world issues the semi-automatic AR-15 rifle to its troops for use in combat, do be sure to let those present know. Until such time it is not a weapon of war.

    With the second worst committed with two handguns. Thus suggesting semi-automatic rifles are not actually superior at all, as Stephen Paddock needed multiple rifles and the proper vantage point to achieve his numbers.

    When one needs multiple semi-automatic rifles, and a penthouse to do more damage than one high school student with two handguns, the semi-automatic rifles are the inferior weapons.
     
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    Show which nation allows any civilians to easily purchase an Assault weapon..........Name one....
     
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    No it's not. Stop posting irrational crap.
    What distortion?

    Enlighten us.
     
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