The Vaccination Card Debacle

Two People Entering a Restaurant:

Hello.
-Hi, table for two, please.
-Sure, and your name.
-Michelle
-Great. And do you and your guest have your vaccination cards?
-Hmmm well first....Can you tell us who our server will be?
-Um, looks like Brad will be your server tonight.
-Great. Can you show us Brad's vaccination card?
-Um
-And also, can you provide me with proof that Brad is not a carrier of HIV, Hepatitis A or B, or any other communicable diseases? Same for you and the kitchen staff.
-Um
-Also, we would prefer not to be served by someone who is on or uses recreational drugs such as marijuana, cocaine, meth, Fentanyl, etc, so if you could provide us with Brad's most recent tox screen, that would be great. Matter of fact, imma need to see all of your employees medical history.
-Um....Let me get the manager for you.
-That would be great, Thanks. Make sure they have their vax card and medical records please.


Here's the thing, nobody needs restaurants, and other places. But they need us. Start standing your ground.

Stolen and passing along.

 

Such trolls should be immediately kicked out of the restaurant. And if they refuse to leave they should be arrested for trespassing.

 

Restaurants have rules for entry. If you don't want to follow them, you shouldn't go to one.

 

Never mind these folks protesting the violation of personal liberty ... The Biden-Fauci Clownshow should be arrested for crimes against humanity.. demonizing these poor folks as "Unclean" - engaging in forced medical treatment - taking away their livlihoods and so on .. surprised they have not stamped these folks with a yellow star.

 

I wonder why rightists never complained about these same businesses forcing them to wear a shirt and shoes.

 

Perhaps because they are not morons ?

 

Dat right Pants ... Dem folks should move along if the "rules of entry" prohibit colord folks.

 

Except in many cities, it has become law for restaurants and other establishments to require vaccination proof. Restricting people of color is illegal.

 

As requiring proof of vaccination should be .. You are correct that it is not the Restaurant's fault though .. and in fact many would not be doing so if not forced or pressured into it by brain dead authoritarians on the basis of fallacious utilitarianism.

 

Restaurant patrons are now called trolls? WOW! People should be kicked out of a restaurant for asking to get vaccination proof from the very people serving them? Are you for real? This is where that beauty comes in to play in dealing with the liberal mindset. Here it is "Rules for Thee But Not For Me" Power to the PEOPLE, stand your ground! We're quickly losing our freedoms and our democratic Republic.

 

I feel like the OP is trying to set up some sort of strawman argument but let's be real for a second. Restaurants already do this.

1. No shirts, no shoes, no service.
2. You look like a kid? Not allowed in the bar area.
3. A person is visibly high or intoxicated? Probably deny them service.
4. A person is clearly very sick or ill? It's reasonable to tell them to go away.
5. It's reasonable in the middle of a pandemic to require patrons to abide by local safety standards to protect themselves and others.

So in conclusion, OP tried and failed to make a point.

 

So the right wing plan is no vaccinations no record of it and widespread spreading of Covid killing as many as we possibly can?????

 

logic dictates if you have to show a vax card then so should they. His point isn’t failed. His point (I think) is that where does it end? What will these rules lead too? What else are we gonna have to show proof of? I mean, I can already see where this is leading and I’ve seen many left wing geniuses in here suggest we all get microchipped.
I don’t see eye to eye with @Libhater ’s views on mandates but I do understand his point and it isn’t failed

 

So his argument is a slippery slope argument. Which is a fallacy. So I get what you’re saying but his argument isn’t a good one. Because it’s not reasonable to go that far when the point is about Covid.

 

No shoes, no shirt, no service.

Don't like it? Tough luck, go to Wendy's

 

Private businesses have the right to limit their customers, and remove people they do not want, as long as they do not discriminate based on race, gender, ethnicity, religion.

They also have the right to keep out sick people or people who refuse to show proof of vaccination during a pandemic, or who refuse to wear a mask.

Don't like it? Tough luck.

 

Or I simply go to a restaurant where the owners are not supplicating morons to authoritarianism.

Where they actually respect your privacy and just want to provide a product in exchange for money

 

The employee's did show it, to the manager.

 

Lets talk about rights. The Restaurant owner has the right to set rules for the operation of his business. He is not to blame for covid nor for laws that apply to his business. Airlines also have that right but that doesn't stop disgruntled anti maskers from attacking their employees. Rights are not a one way street where one person's count and another's don"t.

 

Ah, so you admit it is unreasonable to ask for vax ID.

The OP did make a point. Of course its ridiculous and thats the point. Here in L.A., restaurants, gyms, and salons must verify customers have consumed this ineffective pharma product you call a vaccine. This policy was forced on them by the same politicians that don't even wear masks when at the salon or restaurant. Of course, people can still crowd Walmart and select a ripe avocado!

If you say its reasonable, you made the OPs point.

 

Very simple answer.

Internal versus external.

 

The customer has the right to request to see their staff's proof of vaccination. Taking the Manager's word for it means the manager should be taking the customer's word for it also.

Two way street....

 

Customer has no right to see the manager or staffs vaccination card. If they don't like it they can leave the restaurant.

However many states require that customers show proof of vaccination.

If they don't like it they can file a lawsuit

 

Restaurants and other businesses in many states are required by law to request proof of vaccination. Customers are not required to ask for proof of vaccination for business staff.

If you don't like it file a lawsuit

 

Of course any business has the 'right' to set the rules for their operation of business.

Except for gender, sexual orientation, skin color, race, creed, nationality.....

Any businesses who choose to discriminate based on ANY of the above, alienate a good portion of their own possible business. It's a poor business practice.

I was in an small shop on Wednesday. The sign on the door said: All of our staff have been vaccinated, and do not normally wear a mask. If you prefer that they wear a mask for your health and comfort, please let the receptionist know and one will be worn by all contact staff during your appointment. We appreciate your business and want you to return again.

THAT is how it should be handled.