The West fears Russia is about to attack Ukraine. But that's not the way Russians are seeing it on T

Putinka has gone from "quick retaliatory measures" if demands not met almost a week ago....to "urging" the US/Nato to take Muscovy interest seriously....LOL....quite a backtrack now.

 

This has always been my understanding of the situation, that the Ukrainian nationalists want the land but without the indigenous Russians who live on the land. In other words, they want to take the lands from its original inhabitants by killing them off, in the same way the Ukrainian nationalists who joined the Nazis in WWII, killed off the Poles and took their lands.

Kievs refusal to comply with the agreement signed at Minsk after Poroshenko had sued for peace and to speak to the leaders in Donetsk and Lugansk Republics as specified in the agreement, is a matter of principle to them. As far as they're concern that land belongs to them even though they never saw or stepped a foot on it.

This reflects perfectly the anti-Russian propaganda that is being fed to them through their media - even though it was Merkel who suggested the federalizing of Ukraine and to give equal respect to all the inhabitants of Ukraine. Yesterday Hungary said it will not comply with Nato as far as Ukraine is concerned, because of the way Kiev is treating its Hungarian speaking minority.

Had there not been a fear of Russia, the nationalists in Kiev would have killed off the Russian inhabitants in the Republics without any qualms. Today I read that the police in Kiev are giving lessons on weapons and explosives to children in Kiev. This is reminiscent of Hitler and how he smiled at children as he sent them to fight the allies - even though he knew Germany had lost the war.

 

That's why you should stop believing Russian propaganda. No, no one in Ukraine has anything against ethnic Russians. That is a Russian lie that has been used to foment the kind of division in Ukraine that has allowed Russia to walz in with little green men and steal parts of Ukraine.

 

True....you don't see ethnic cleansing going on in Kharkiv,Odessa, Kharkov....you'll see tons of Ukranian flags .....

 

Ukrainian rhetoric touches only the earth. It's not even about people. Ukrаina has been regularly shelling Donetsk for 8 years - civilians are dying. Ukraine has cut off water and electricity to people it "considers its own". Ukraine has stopped paying well-deserved benefits to people living on the "Ukrainian land", dooming them to starvation by setting up an embargo.
These are facts.
Russia does not claim land. But Russia is ready to defend people who consider themselves Russian.
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Can you tell me how it is translated into English and what the phrase "Москаляку на гіляку!"

 

Yep. And where are the Russians talking about this alleged ethnic cleansing? Where are the refugees?

 

There was an attempt of sorts back in April 2014 by some "$hit disturbers" in Kharkiv to instigate some insurrection...but failed miserably.....the mongrels even targeted the wrong building from what I understood.

 

Show me where Ukraine military has been shellung Donetsk for 8 yrs.....considering Donetsk is past the DMZ....I'll wait for some accurate links and first person accounts?

 

The US is covered by every single news media in the world including Russia's. But what news agencies can cover what Russia does daily? Can you list a few? I'm really just curious to know.

 

If Kiev is respectful of all the groups in Ukraine, then why aren't they following the Minsk agreement? Also, why did Poroshenko not speak to the leaders in Donetsk and Lugansk after they voted for certain rights, and instead began to bomb and kill them?

So who is the propagandist here, Russia or the Washington controlled government in Ukraine?

 

Is there any party to the Minsk agreement that is honoring the Minsk agreement?

 

You are, because you're dodging what I said and going back to this nonsense about the so-called Minsk agreement.

 

Ukraine is telling the west to chill out and not create a panic. I think the MIC is doing everything they can to raise tensions and start a conflict. Their Iraq/Afghanistan cash cow has dried up. They are pushing western administrations to stir some **** up to replace them.

On the other hand, there is a very good chance that Putin will actually invade. It’s a flip of a coin at this point.

 

The Russian Federation is very large, and there are 123 languages spoken. About 60 are taught in school together with Russian. This is what I found.

"...There are more than 83,000 active and officially registered media outlets in Russia that broadcast information in 102 languages. Of the total number of media outlets, the breakdown is as follows: magazines – 37%, newspapers – 28%, online media – 11%, TV – 10%, radio – 7% and news agencies – 2%. Print media, which accounts for two thirds of all media, is predominant..."
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Here's a comparison with the US.

In 1983 fifty companies owned our mass media so we had diverging views - which was as it should be. Today 90% of the mass media is owned by 6 corporation - this is why the views in the MSM parrot one another. So to get another view I'll go to a foreign site not affiliated with the MSM, or a viewer supported internet site.

According to FCC law, foreign ownership of our media has (always?) been limited to 25%.

Section 310 (b) (4) prohibits indirect foreign ownership in a broadcast or aeronautical licensee in excess of 25 per cent, unless the FCC finds that greater foreign ownership would serve the public interest. Historically, the FCC did not knowingly authorise indirect foreign ownership of a broadcast licensee in excess of 25 per cent.​

I believe in Russia most periodicals and newspapers were foreingn owned until 2014. At that time they amended the law and brought it to the same standards as the West and will only allow 20% of a paper or periodical to be foreign owned.

In 2014, the Russian law on mass media was amended to prohibit all direct foreign ownership of “mass media organizations,” as well as indirect foreign ownership of more than 20 percent, and other means of foreign control of such organizations.

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Probably none....since the Russkis aren't.

 

What nonsense about the Minsk II agreement? It was agreed to after Poroshenko sued for peace and was agreed by the 2 republics. Germany, France and Russia were the guarantors of the agreement and it was made into law by the UN.

You know damn well that Zalensky can cry and beg all he wants, and that Putin will not speak or have anything to do with him about Ukraine, until he follows through on the agreement since Russia is not part of it. Oh my, Zalensky like Poroshenko cannot speak to the leaders of the Republics because it goes against their principles. They can only bomb and kill them, after all, they have nothing against our Russian inhabitants it's all Russian propaganda.

 

It is all Russki propaganda.....show where Ukies are bombing the DPR?

 

The Minsk agreement is between the Kiev government and the 2 Republics. France, Germany and Russia are simply guarantors of the agreement. In the agreement it's specified that Kiev must speak to the heads of the 2 Republics in order to decentralize the government and become federalized - the way we are, the way Germany is and the way Russia is. But they refuse, they want to control everything. Nor have they carried out anything else in the agreement - like for instance paying the pensions owed them. Instead Russia has been carrying them

In the meantime, they keep attacking the border region and sending missiles to the Russian civilians - but it's not to kill and ethnically cleanse them - at least not according to Durandel. After all they don't hate them. That's all Russian propaganda.

Germany and France could have been more adamant about Kiev carrying out the agreement, but they have been under pressure from the US.

 

All of that and didn’t attempt to answer the question I posed.

 

So how would an outsider access those news medias?

 

Oh gee...yes,another one of those "whatabout" dubious videos.

You guys are priceless....moscali nah xhlyakuh"?

Yah...."moscals must hang"....what's your point exactly?

 

Yes, the two breakaway republics, the DPR and LPR abided by the Minsk Protocol and then Kiev moved in heavy artillery and shelled the **** out of them. And Kiev has been shelling them for years now. In civilian areas. You won't find a lot of it on YouTube because it gets pulled down almost immediately. Youtube doesn't like videos showing dead civilians with half their heads missing...laying dead on sidewalks outside cafes...hotels..and generally in city centers. I've seen them and it ain't pretty.

You'e certainly right about that. Zelensky cried wolf enough that more than one ignorant ass country is sending them financial aid. Financial. Go check out Zelensky's twitter feed. Those scumbags are further fleecing American taxpayers. The Ukrainians discriminate and commit genocide against Russians after they overthrow the rightfully elected President....and then we pay for it. Let's go Brandon.

 

No need to translate. Those who show up uninvited are gonna find out. Especially in western Ukraine.

 

is this propaganda?

For example, in this video I see a dila house under fire and a year on the video. This is not the only example, to google.