The would be gun grabbers position all shot to hell

Now we have been taught TWO lessons by Venezuela!!!!! First we learn that socialism destroys a country. Second we can see how a gun grabbing government can kill citizens any time they want to. Just look at the video from Venezuela of the government tanks running over people and killing them. They are being killed and they have no way to shoot back!!!

It proves the old truth that people with guns are citizens, and people without guns are slaves and pawns of the government.

That people is why the need the 2nd amendment, and applied full force.

 

I am against banning guns. That being said, do you really think a gun would stop a tank? My lord....

 

Pray tell, what would an AR-15 do to a tank?

 

If the citizens of Venezuela had guns it would never have gotten that far.

And there are gov troops behind the tanks that could be shot!!!!!!!!!!

 

The citizens of the United States having guns didn't stop Kent State, Matewan, or any of the other times the Capitalist US government turned its guns on the citizens.

 

Still wouldn't stop a tank. Just sayin

 

I'm against banning private ownership of guns - but your argument is stupid.
They would just be having a far bloodier civil war - it wouldn't have kept things from "going this far ...".

 

Good thing arms covers things like rockets and grenades

 

Cool, so now when a "law abiding gun owner" suddenly mystically transforms into a "homicidal nutcase" they can blow up a school instead of shooting it up.

 

Which again, just means a bloodier civil war - it doesn't guarantee civil rights.

I am for private ownership of guns - but this moronic idea that they are some sort of panacea for the world's ills is completely misguided.

 

See Oklahoma City, they already can do that chief.

 

Except for the massive regulations around acquiring large amounts of ANFO...

 

It would've given these citizens a chance to put forward a government of their choosing instead of one which rigs elections for tyrants.
No one said it was a ****ing panacea for all the world's ills but you.
No one said it guaranteed rights but you. All we said is it would've given them a CHANCE. More equal footing.

 

In order to have equal footing with the US government, I, a law-abiding US citizen, need my own nuclear weapon. Then I can annihilate a whole city when I mystically transform into a "nomocidal nutcase".

 

Such was before the internet and social media became widespread, where a story can reach the masses within seconds and minutes. Such was also before the population of the united states became so partisan, distrustful of government, and violent. The riots witnessed in the wake of law enforcement officers killing members of the black community are just an example of what could be had if such came to pass in the modern era.

 

if the most advanced nations on earth offer a paradigm for governance, it is one of pragmatic integration of capitalistic and socialistic aspects.

Similarly, neither a draconian ban on firearms nor permissiveness are desirable policies.

Extremists notwithstanding, moderation usually wins.

 

Anfo= not the only thing you can make go bang or boom or burn or all 3.
Open your eyes man you fuel your vehicle with explosives

 

And the pro-gun crowd would definitely have supported citizens using guns on government agents in recent years right?

 

No amount of gasoline is going to cause an explosion the like of OKC unless you are talking about a tanker truck full.

 

Except the US .gov aint going to nuke its citizenry or anyone else for that matter because setting off 1 nuke in earnest like that would trigger MADD responses.
Not to mention the whole turning a generous portion of the country radioactive with fallout etc.
Not to mention the fact that most troops and aides etc would attack the person trying to give that actual order.

But hey if you can afford one knock yourself out

 

Why would setting off one nuke within the US trigger MAD?

 

And you think yelling and throwing rocks at it would be a better choice? Come on many, just run from it, that's what unarmed sheep do when the wolf shows up

 

The drivers have to come out sooner or later, I suppose tactics is another weapon the left gave up too

 

Which is doable, the point was to illustrate simply a single ubiquitous and non suspicion raising source of explosives.

Also: With gas you'd really add styrofoam and citrus to create poor man's napalm and then you can also add ball bearings to the device to increase shrapnel.
A few of those, or a car rigged to carry a drum full etc? Plenty of bang for a suicide bomber's taste or haven't you ever read any reports about IEDs?

 

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