There is only one thing that has to be realized about the right and their leader Pumpkin head

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  1. jbander

    jbander Banned

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    That for the first time in history of this country a party and president has been supported by the KKK, the White supremacist and the Nazi party. That says everything that need s to be said about this unchristian hate group'
     
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    http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/guilt-by-association.html

     
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    When your title calls the President a pumpkin head, you lose any credibility you had.
     
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    Yeah... and we all know how fervently the President and his followers have defended Political Correctness.
     
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    You have the right to call the president any name you wish. I never said otherwise. However, using childish names is being childish.
     
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    So you are accusing the current President of the United States of being childish.

    Listen... I sympathize with you. I don't think we should allow Trump and his followers to make this the new normal. But if you're going to criticize this you need to be consistent. I would like to see you criticizing the President for the same thing you criticize a poster in a political forum. Which do you think is worse?
     
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    Put very simply why should I care what the hell a bunch of people stupid enough to accurately bear any of those labels believe. By the way this is scarcely the first time all those groups have been in league, during the 1930's all were in league with the progressive wing of the the Democrat party through the eugenics movement.
     
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    A president that sticks up for white people is a rational response to the previous president.
     
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    Really?

    In 1980, the KKK officially endorsed Ronald Reagan for president they said the "Republican Platform looked like it had been written by a Klansman".

    And this was back when the Klan was actually a semi serious organization.
     
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    His attempt to call out Antifa was poorly timed. It was the speech he should have given if there was no fatality.

    Still on the money - Antifa has a much broader reach too. We have them over here. We do not have many white supremacists, certainly not violent ones.

    If you plan on giving a speech on anything to the right of Pol Pot, plan on violent Bolshevik thugs showing up and pulling fire alarms, that's the reality of it.
     
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    I think tge President calling people names is also childish.
     
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    The speech is inappropriate regardless of the fatality. Racism is never morally equivalent to anti-racism. You can argue (and I would agree) that Antifa's methods may be illegal and reprehensible. But there is absolutely no moral equivalence.

    I wouldn't minimize "racism" as just being "to the right of Pol Pot. Pol Pot was one of the major racists in history.
     
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    This post is kind of bizarre.
     
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    The racism was in your own ears. It wasn't there.
     
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    I call scum bag many names, he such a pig that many ugly names fit him and his supporter, considering they sold out this country. They need descriptive names.
     
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    And a president that's a pig and a bigot belongs being aligned with your hate group. President Pumpkin head.
     
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    Getting support from one of the big three is not the same as a trifecta .
     
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    So.... There was no racism in a white supremacist march?????

    Gotta be the oddest comment of the month.
     
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    And you lost credibility.
     
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    I wasn't a white supremacist march it was a free speech march I hope to God that white supremacists aren't the only people in the country who are in favor of free speech. If they are the country is no longer the USA I cherish.
     
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    I see no reason why they should get a pass for cracking skulls with bike locks, throwing m80s into dense crowds, burning down cars, etc. You don't get to assault people because you have an edgy political affiliation.
     
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    Yeah. Free speech for white supremacists. Therefore, it was a white supremacist march.

    First of all, the USA is certainly no longer the one you grew up in. Second, I acknowledge the right of white supremacists to free speech. But I also acknowledge their obligation to accept the consequences if they use the right in a reckless manner.

    The only thing we should not tolerate is intolerance.
     
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    Funny it didn't say that it just said free speech rally There were a hell of a lot more people there than white supremacists before Antifa showed up and tried to shut down everyone's speech.
     
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    Who said they should get a pass? I have said at least three times that they are not morally equivalent. And clearly stated that any violent acts are illegal and reprehensible. But, fourth time, not morally equivalent to racism. Racism needs to be condemned on its own. And Trump watering down that condemnation is a definite wink-wink, nod-nod, to white supremacists.
     
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