There is Undeniable Mathematical Evidence the Election is Being Stolen

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  1. Gdawg007

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    Your own source indicates that these trends are deniable by saying, it's preliminary data and there's no real conclusion here.

    More over, if one was to steal an election, why leave evidence and simply follow Benford's Law? Oh that's right, because if the data follows the law too precisely, it's also used to indicate fraud...turns out, Benford's Law isn't really conclusive at all. That's what many statisticians say about it. But the charts sure are pretty.
     
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    Still waiting on a reply. I did however read some scholarly work on the concept and apparently this law of statistics is more applicable to analyses concernining financial data. Benford himself said that the law is not necessarily applicable to anything unless his law's conditions are met. As far as I know, the sample sizes n being drawn may absolutely pollute the data. You'll get goodness-of-fit tests way beyond tolerance but you have insufficient sample sizes. Truthfully, I can't follow much of this literature with my experience level.

    Have a look through some library resources; it is very interesting, just thick as f.
     
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    Why else would Biden hardly even bother to campaign?

    He probably knew for a long time that this was all set up. What would shock his team ...... is how many extra ballots they would need at the last moment to make it look like they won in critical swing states.
     
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    They wanted constitutional conservatives on the court.

    When I think conservative court, I don't think, "Let's get in the middle of a state's rights issue and tell them how they can and cannot choose their electors."

    The moment they do that, the EC becomes totally irrelevant.
     
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    Which includes meddling in state's and their right to decide how to choose electors without interference from DC?
     
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    Josef Stalin once said:
    That pretty much explains what happened in four states in this last election. The last time something like this happened was when Chicago stole the election for Kennedy.
     
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    :roflol::roflol::roflol::roflol:
    And I'm certain you believe this to your core. All without a shred of evidence.
     
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    First of all, while I am a citizen, that is hardly relevant to my analysis. Part of the reason I chose this screen name was because you should be judging my words alone - not basing your response on who you think I am. Allow me to go over each of your points:

    Mail in vs absentee is not relevant for these specific state comparisons. Every single state in the graphic from the source the OP quotes this year accepted no excuse (or COVID as an excuse) for mail ballots. Here are the links to every state:

    AZ: https://azsos.gov/votebymail
    GA: https://georgia.gov/vote-absentee-ballot
    FL: https://dos.myflorida.com/elections/for-voters/voting/vote-by-mail/
    MI: https://www.michigan.gov/sos/0,4670,7-127-1633_8716_8728-21037--,00.html
    MN: https://www.sos.state.mn.us/elections-voting/other-ways-to-vote/vote-early-by-mail/
    NC: https://www.ncsbe.gov/voting/vote-mail/faqs-voting-mail-north-carolina-2020
    OH: https://www.ohiosos.gov/elections/voters/absentee-voting/

    There you go. No requirements for any of these states to vote absentee by mail.

    Yes, they are. After several months of railing against mail voting, one particular candidate managed to drive his voters away from the method and create a partisan divide. It's really that simple. It was born out in the polls before voting. It has been born out in the early voting data of states that report party registration data. And now it has born out in the actual numbers of the votes. This including states Trump won:

    https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/KY.html

    Oh, and look at this. Anyone can vote absentee by mail in Kentucky this year:

    https://www.sos.ky.gov/elections/Pages/2020-General-Updates.aspx

    They even allow ballots to arrive up to 3 days after election day if it's postmarked by Nov 3rd. Crazy stuff. The democrats have really run away with things in that state. Must be why Mitch McConnell lost reelection.[/sarcasm]

    OP's source is highly partisan. Mediabiasfactcheck is hardly. But I am not relying on that for my analysis. Nor did I rely on the other fact checking site for my analysis. My analysis focused on the premise of the article - not the usage of Benford's Law - which becomes irrelevant once you understand that the premise is faulty to begin with.

    By far the site I am most relying on is the early vote project, which I linked more than any other: https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/index.html

    Now if you want to debate the validity of the data there, then I'll have to direct you to the individual state's election board sites, where you can download csv files of information about voters, what party they are registered to, and how they voted in 2020. Note that for some states this stuff must be gotten at the individual county level. So unless you want to go digging around csv files, I don't think you're going to find better data on this subject.

    You seem to have missed bothering to read the OP's source whereby they compare how absentee voting broke for Biden more heavily in PA and MI vs other battleground states. Using this faulty premise, they go on to say that this illustrates a massive anomaly in those states vs other battleground states, pointing to fraud. Given that MI and PA do not support early in person voting, and also that early voting by mail + early in person voting is reported together, this is an obvious misinterpretation of the data by the OP's source, which is the entire point of my analysis.

    Your speculation that there are "highly questionable recipients", and that democrats ensured "entirely invalid votes were still counted" are completely outside the scope of my analysis of the source for the OP. Perhaps you should consider responding to the content of the post your are replying to and doing a bit of research yourself instead of engaging in speculation that is irrelevant to what you are replying to.
     
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    Anonymous sources name Bigfoot and Nessie as perpetrators of a Vote Fraud scheme to assure a Bat Boy Win is Wisconsin.

    ^These Anonymous "sources" seem 100% Reliable to me.

    ^This is Major Stuff.

    With all of these 100% Reliable Anonymous sources, I don't know who to believe.

    The Truth is Out There.:salute:
     
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    You guys are in overdrive trying to push the fear narrative. Telling people they are fearful when they aren't is a waste of energy. Why do you do it? Who are you trying to convince?
     
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    Which Democrats have said they don't want "this" to happen? It's not up to Democrats. It's up to the courts, and Trump has been laughed out of all 13 so far. Do you think he will ever win? I don't. He's an embarrassment.
     
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    Don’t forget a complete mistrust of the American justice system, intelligence community and other administrative departments. Possibly most damaging, a complete mistrust of the press.

    Dirty donny bonespurs has spent four years attacking America and pulling it apart and his supporters - who claim to be patriots - have cheered him on every step of the way. It is truly sad.
     
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    I fully believe that you and tens of millions of other trump supporters will be stuck in the first stage of grief for at least the next four years.
     
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    Inshallah :unclesam::rock_slayer:
     
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    Did you have 4 years of grief because Trump won in 2016 ?
     
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    Exactly.

    The Entire Universe is going to revolve around Benford's Law (ad infinitum).
     
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    Not four years of denial, which is the first stage of grief.
     
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    My simple reaction to this bullcrao is

    YAWN !!!!

    If you have something that you can put as proof and not only as a blah blah blah BS claim in the folder "Crying, angry Trumponians and their ridiculous attempt not to recognize the defeat" ... then please get in touch!
     
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    While I definitly agree in voter fraud being more prominent in this election than ever before I don't believe benfords law proves this. If you average out the county's and precincts that voted the data is very close together. This is bad for benfords law. There are several videos on benfords law on YouTube as well pre election and post election. I would like to see a clean and fair election and while benfords law may be a means to discovering voter fraud it will definitely not be the smoking gun. One thing that scares me is that wikipedia has changed the definition of benfords law to support bidens campaign and that just shows you how the tech companies are on his side. The big tech companies are overtly phishing conservatives.
     
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    Once again, a Trumpster finds what he wants to believe in an obscure right wing bulletin board.

    The article itself is trash. The usual collection of hyper partisan signaling accompanied by a deliberate twisting of an academic paper to hide the notion that the researcher drew the exact opposite conclusion than the one trumpeted by this article.

    In fact, the author of the study drew the EXACT OPPOSITE conclusion.

    You didn’t read that. But then, the trash blog you think is “news” didn’t tell you either.

    Here is the actual paper. Note its title:

    http://www-personal.umich.edu/~wmebane/inapB.pdf
     
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    You are committing the cardinal sin of challenging RWNJ conspiracy theories with facts.
    The truth is inconvenient for trumpsters. It is to be avoided at all costs.

    I warn you Tom: people who present facts are often called traitors by trump supporters.
     
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    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/dan-patrick-texas-lt-governor-1-million-reward-voter-fraud-evidence/

    Houston — Texas Lt. Governor Dan Patrick announced Tuesday that he would pay up to $1 million from his campaign account to incentivize, encourage and reward people to come forward and report voter fraud from anywhere in the country, CBS Dallas Fort Worth reports.

    "Whistleblowers and tipsters should turn over their evidence to local law enforcement. Anyone who provides information that leads to an arrest and final conviction of voter fraud will be paid a minimum of $25,000," said Patrick in a news release.



    Here's some mathematical proof for the thread.
    Reward offers.
    Still hasn't turned up much if any fraud.
     
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    "10 for the Big Guy"

    "10" is a number, therefore, mathematical proof.
     
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    I hate to scare you but so far over 500 people have signed affidavits of witnessing voter fraud under penalty of perjury and there have been over 11,000 reported incidents that the GOP is combing through. You can just pretend all you want.

    but let me ask you this, kicking out republicans in Philly and then boarding up the windows does not bother you one tiny bit? I can imagine what you would be writing if there was a Red city that kicked out democrats and did this.

    As I said in another thread, if I told democrats the sky was blue they would ask me what proof I have as there is none, look for yourself is all we ask, it is right in front of you, you just refuse to see it.
     

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