There is Undeniable Mathematical Evidence the Election is Being Stolen

Computerize our elections with a MAIN FRAME computer running a program to automatically count every vote in every state as it is cast. Have one program with each state having it's own unique region within the program and it's own vote counting fields. Make all states ballots follow one common design allowing for unique circumstances which might be voted on by any state. Let people vote from either their smart phone or a PC capturing either their cell phone number or their pc IP address to verify the voter identity. It would be a major one time effort that would save millions long term and eliminate the need for polling station workers and vote counters and the millions spent on antiquated voting machines and equipment needed to process paper ballots. It would take us out of the dark ages and into the 21st century.

 

LOL... it just never gets old.

 

I take it you know very little about modern computing or the dangers of it. The reality is that in person voting has a value. The more you disassociate in person,, the higher potential introduction of fraud is likely. If you cannot validate the actual person voted, what good does your solution provide? If i vote from a smart phone and it is riding on a national carrier network I don't have anything unique about who used the device to ever track. How is it that an election would be "fairer" in your mind?

 

Yeah. It's old. Time for you to give it up.

 

So, WI, MI, NC, GA, are going to need to be recounted. Both presidential and senate races need to be scrutinized. There seems to be likely fraud, so, I think you'd like for the votes to be counted by legitimate ballots, not just "received" ballots that needed curative measures for them to be counted. Now, this concept is very much in line with the theme of the thread, and something it doesn't seem likely you'll agree with. And there we have it.

 

Nevertheless, on October 6th, I posted this:

"Prediction: this election will not produce a clear result on the night of November 3rd -- AND -- even by December 3rd, we STILL won't have a officially-declared 'winner'.

No. The election results will be fiercely contested no matter WHO is 'ahead', and the whole damn thing will have to be ruled on by the Supreme Court, in all likelihood...(?). It can only be hoped that the matter is finally decided by Inauguration Day, on January 20, 2021.

Truth? It may not be.... ".

At least now, today, finally, after YEARS of having a definite liberal bias, it will be decided by a balanced Supreme Court composed of at least half its membership who respect the Constitution exactly as it was originally written and legally amended!

After all, America deserves the BEST....

 

Instead of predicting, why don't try asking?

I'm very opposed to fraud. So I say any recount should proceed according to law. And you? (See, I asked.)

 

A day or two ago there was a drop of 71,000 votes in Arizona - 71,000 all at one time. You won't hear a single word about that because it favoured Trump. There is nothing strange going on here, just people who are either ignorant of how things work or who are deliberately misrepresenting it.

 

We have agreement. I say we start today. And why do you suppose that the democrats don't want this to happen?

 

You will have to ask them.

 

I'm not really a political creature. I voted LP as I have usually done over the years.

That said, I've never heard of Benford's Law, but you do make a plausible and persuasive case.

I reckon the Dems had some measure of revenge against Trump for what happened 4 years ago. Politics has always been a dirty business.

 

You Grampa Joe may be the first President elect removed due to voter fraud.

 

It's interesting that now that a Democrat is going to assume the presidency, you suddenly become concerned about the law being followed to the point that you pursue the subject like you're doing today. But when it was about Trump being impeached you were satisfied with the letter of the law but not the spirit of it. And then when Trump was facing investigation for his campaign having conspired with Putin, or for business dealing in Russia, or when his business dealings began to look shady, or when he was found to be making millions for his own businesses due to exploiting his position as president, you saw no problems. Yes, very interesting and very inconsistent.

 

SO, the difference is that factually, from the initial disclosure of the Steele Dossier, we had all the necessary facts that it was the work product of a foreign intelligence officer of the Russians and paid for by the Hillary campaign/DNC> We knew it was fake. More, we knew that Nancy induced impeachment because of butt hurt for not having found anything from Mueller, because, well, the accusation (which was all it ever was, fyi) was factually false. Moe, the accusation about conspiracy with Putin was probative but never substantiated. And yet, here, we see Biden actually having a paper trail back to the Russian backed Ukrainians, The Russians (wife of the former mayor of moscow,) and the Chinese. So help me understand that given this, why would you support Biden? So, you assert Trump "looked shady" and here we have actual evidence that Biden actually is shady. And still, you're willing to ignore that to support the guy. So, Why would we ever assume that Biden isn't in it to put more graft on the table for his already documented la familia enrichment since we already have the evidence of it?

What I see as problems aren't the same as what I see as criminality. And frankly, the assertion of misconduct by Democrats has always been entirely lacking, but y'all simply believed that if you repeated it often enough that your lies could ultimately become the "truth" because you were consistent in your lying.

So how about this. We take a look at the ballots. Analyze them for their legitimacy, and go from there. We make that look entirely transparent, and let those chips fall. I'll be happy, most of the half of the nation you seem to despise will be happy, and likely Biden won't be president when the amount of actual fraud is disclosed. I'll take that.

And for the record, I'm always concerned if there is criminal behavior. The difference is that I'm pretty good at knowing the difference between the actual criminals and the unjustly accused. Remember Duke? I called that day one. Check the tape. I called Florida. Again, day one. I called the Hillary loss because of her criminal acts. Day one. This one won't be any different.

 

No, you didn't "know" any of that. You HEARD it on RW extreme and insane lying media, . . . . --and you chose to believe it and be part of the division and social disruption Russia (Putin) was trying to instigate. Now we're there. Russia is still pushing and disrupting and you are still pretending it isn't happening. And you're willing to continue playing the game of "oh poor butthurt Trump" to do it.

 

OK... If I were a Democrat, I think my approach would be -- "Let's go ahead and entertain all of Trump's legitimate, legal challenges, and agree to bipartisan recounts conducted under extreme scrutiny in the 'light of day'!" Why would any Democrat not want to agree to this?

If, indeed, Biden did win the required numbers for victory in the Electoral College, they should agree enthusiastically! By agreeing to undergo the challenges and resultant court cases they'll achieve a double-victory by making Trump look like a stupid, floundering fool... right...? And, they make themselves look 'angelic' by comparison.... What Democrat wouldn't love an opportunity like THAT?

Biden can still go right on putting together his 'transition team', so it wouldn't inconvenience him or Harris. Everything to gain, and absolutely nothing for Democrats to lose... right...?

 

I am a libertarian. I voted for Ron Paul when he was on the ballot and wrote him in when he wasn't. Not this time though.

 

It's also statistically impossible to get more than 100% turnout.

 

Hmmm...

That sounds familiar...

Where did I see that before:

http://www.politicalforum.com/index...n-big-guy-email.580619/page-3#post-1072200591

Anyway, that "Mathematical Evidence" proves NOTHING.

 

undergo the challenges and resultant court cases
Elections in each state have their known procedures to vote, there is no mystery. Again, some states have auto recounts due to percentange difference, otherwise you want the Federal govt to challenge the states

 

"Defund the Police", "Green New Deal, Socialism", "Universal MediCare", All The Gun Control", "Pack The Court"....

Those messages hurt the Democrats down ballot quite badly. Trump was sufficiently bad that Biden could beat him but even though Biden repudiated much of the above, it was not enough for Biden to win big or for his down-ballot to benefit.

There's a lot of discussion going on with the Dems right now trying to understand why they won so weakly against such an idiot in the White House. This question is not rocket science, it is easy. All those idiotic very far left talking heads such as AOC & The Squad talking loud, saying stupid things.

 

Looked into it. The source you reference is not reputable at all: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-red-elephants/

The claim does not hold up under scrutiny: https://www.truthorfiction.com/does-benfords-law-prove-election-fraud-in-biden-votes/

Further, I can tell from the very first image on the site, the people writing this are either unaware of what they are talking about, or are deliberately misleading:



Site states:

As someone who actually followed absentee voting quite actively, even digging into individual state laws to check the differences, I can tell you that PA, MI, and OH do not have the same absentee voting laws as the others on this list. AZ is an all absentee voting state. NC, GA, FL, MN all have early voting in addition to absentee mail voting - which republicans took advantage of. See for example NC stats on mail vs early voting:

https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/NC.html

You can see from NC's stats, D's led actual mail votes (what is actually being counted in PA and MI as absentee) by 2:1, which would produce roughly a 65% advantage Biden, assuming independents were roughly split. You can see a similar split in FL's absentee vs early in person voting stats, though not quite as pronounced:

https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/FL.html

PA and MI are not allowed to start processing mail ballots until after polls are closed, which why is they have taken so much bloody longer than FL / NC / OH, which all do. MN and GA do not provide party breakdown, but both allow early in person voting. AZ is an all mail ballot state, but also offers polling places for those who want to show up in person.

Conclusion:

Source misinterprets this early vote data, which gives the reader the impression that MI and PA mail ballots favoring Biden to such a degree is disproportionate to other comparable states. Source does not factor in differences in voting systems between states, nor does it disclose when it is comparing mail ballots to mail ballots + early in person votes. On closer inspection, disproportionate allocation of mail ballots to Biden in states that are not all-mail is in line with what we see broken down by party from NC and FL.

Finally, just to put this to rest, here is PA mail ballots broken down by party registration:

https://electproject.github.io/Early-Vote-2020G/PA.html

As you can see, almost 3:1 in favor for D's over R's.

 

Your process is just too superficial. It does't allow you to look at things deeply enough. Why? Because you still rely on msm to tell you what to think. And because you think that way, I must also. I'm just going to point out to you that your limitations are not mine. I fail to understand your logic here. If you really believed that the amount of money Russians may have spent upset the elections, why wouldn't you claim that the hundreds of millions spent by US billionaires didn't have the same effect? Face it, you're simply not paying attention.

More, you seem to be happy that a national election was essentially fraudulently conducted and states like WI, MI, and now PA and likely GA have been compromised in a way never seen since Chicago in 1960 but at state levels. And you're happy? The any crime will do happenstance of Democrats is just staggering. It appears to me that you just discount facts where it suits you. And why do you suppose that is?

 

So a couple of things. You seem to not understand the difference between or the requirements differences between absentee balloting and mail in balloting. And the margins are disproportionately showing performance in demographics that have never actually performed like this. The superficiality of your analysis is likely because you aren't actually a citizen of this country. More, you are relying on highly partisan "fact checking" sites that influence your own opinion, and how is that effective?

This is the first election nationally that allowed democrats to flood ballots to highly questionable recipients, and seemed entirely willing the ensure that even entirely invalid votes were still counted (ref PA, WI, MI GA). Perhaps you should wait until the scrutiny of these counts is completed before you assume you have an actual point to make.

 

Figures don't lie, but liars figure Mark Twain

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