There was Adam and Eve..... and Cain

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  1. Quantrill

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    Well, tell me, what would they wonder.

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    Probably what it was, why it was so big, where it came from and if there were more. And that's when the myths and stories would follow. Imagination is a powerful thing.
     
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    So you think they painted pictures of these due to finding the skeletons of dinosaurs? People do paint pictures also of what they really see.

    The reality of dinosaurs is not in question. What I would question is the '65 million years ago' date given. Im not buying that at all.

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    Why? Have you researched it? Do you have evidence that indicates otherwise?
     
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    Science dates are based on the assumption that the conditions of today are the same as they were in the past. The natural laws being the same. But that is an assumption.

    The Bible declares that the world was different prior to the Noahic flood. And that the flood itself caused great geological changes.

    All of which negates the dating system of science. Science wants this uniform natural law at all times because it needs it to have its evolution. Which is why it is so adamant against the Bible.

    I believe this is called uniformitarianism.

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    I've always believed Science and religion are two totally separate entities that have little to nothing to do with each other. Science doesn't exist to 'disprove' religion, it is the "investigation of natural phenomena through observation, theoretical explanation, and experimentation, or the knowledge produced by such investigation."

    http://www.thefreedictionary.com/science

    Nothing about disproving religion. You can still have religion and believe in the truths Science has discovered and use the things developed through Science. Hell, I have seen people use Science to attempt to prove some of the supernatural phenomena in the Bible. Science is a tool. Religion is worship of a deity or deities and it's main purpose is to teach morals, lessons and overall how to be a good human being according to that religion's standards.

    I don't see why it's such a hard leap to say that your deity gave you the tool, Science, so that you may study his or her world further and make your own discoveries not mentioned in the Bible.
     
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    Excellent post...............

     
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    I agree whole heartedly. Science is the investigation of the natural, not the supernatural. Thus science does not have the tools to know anything about the supernatural.

    The problem comes when scientists claim there is no God because they cannot prove Him by science. They tell the Christian 'prove it' as if we could produce something supernatural for them to test with their physical test equipment.

    God does give to man science for him to study. But scientists have turned it into the ability to deny Gods existance.

    Science when understood correctly will never disagree with God, because God is the Creator of the Universe. If Science were allowed to exist for the time needed for it to know everything, which it won't be, it would agree completely with any thing the Bible said concerning the creation.

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    I think you have been the one attacking science, not the other way around.

    You jump to the conclusion that scientist have turned the investigation into the ability to deny God's existence...

    Just because they are uncovering evidence of humans who made tools, created art and jewelry, tended livestock and mummified their dead 35,000 years ago.. is NOT necessarily a threat to faith.. except for the rigid literalist.

     
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    Everytime the Christian is asked 'to prove it ' concerning God, it is science seeking to deny God's existance based on scientific evidence.

    Well, based on their dating system which assumes all was then as it is now as far as the natural law exists. Which is an assumption. An assumption needed for their evolution.

    And, science is never a threat to the Christians faith.

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    No one can PROVE God's existence.. Its a matter of faith..and a stupid question.

     
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    And many here ask stupid questions.

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    What evidence? Most of these things hadn't even happened yet that far back in human history.
     
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    Sure they already happened.. If you follow archeology news, there is ample evidence that Humans have been making tools, weaving, domesticating animals, creating art and mummifying their dead ... which indicates some concept of an afterlife .... for 35,000 years.

    There are currently three threads running with photos..
     
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    Well, they were to keep us from killing each other, the ones within the society itself, not those external to it. They allowed people to live, work, play and fight against enemies without fear of their neighbors stabbing them in the back. That is all morals, rules and laws are about. They are NOT some nonsense given from god to make us improve ourselves. They are simply a way to work together as a HERD.
     
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    Sorry pal, the Bible was written for the belivers. The followers of God. Not pretenders.

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    The Bible was clearly assembled by and for believers. Regardless of that, though, I can understand your intentions if you want to infer that non-believers reject the Bible but it's perhaps not the wisest thing to suggest that the Bible (Bible-authors) rejects anyone. Which is essentially what you're saying here.

    Not that I care, though. No one enjoys a true scotsman fight more than I.
     
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    The Bible is the Word of God sent by God for His people. God did not send it for those who are not His people.

    2Tim.3:16-17 All scripture is given by inspiration of God,....That the man of God may be perfect.....

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    And God has been around much longer than that, the sudden disappearance waqs God's doing to wipe clean the earth that was hevaily corrupted and polluted by Lucifer.
     
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    Genesis 6: 1-4

    And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them, that the sons of God (benei ha-elohim) saw the daughters of men that they were fair, and they took them wives of all which they chose. And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be a hundred and twenty years. There were giants (ha-nephilim) in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God (benei ha-elohim) came unto the daughters of men, and they bore children to them, the same became mighty men (ha-gibborim) which were of old, men of renown.

    This is the very reason why science is beginning to understand the uniqueness of man, man's intelligence that separates man from all other form of living creatures, thanks to the Bible.
     
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    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/05/080505120702.htm

    So it was god who sent the Meteor on a collision course with earth then...

    What exactly was so corrupted about this age in earth's history exactly? Were the dinosaurs and other creatures that roamed the planet at that time under the sway of Lucifer?
     
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    Lolololol.....
     
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    Nothing is going to occurr on the earth that God has not sent. Directly or indirectly. God doesn't need a meteor to do anything. But He may so decide to use a meteor to do His will.

    The rebellion of Satan and his angels was what corrupted. If dinosaurs were there at that time, then they would have been under the authority of Lucifer.

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