There's a sobering truth to Trump's racist tweets that we don't like to admit

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  1. straight ahead

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    It also does not change the fact that racism is another word for stereotypes and stereotypes are often true. Blacks and hispanics commit an inordinate amount of violent crime and they use up an inordinate amount of financial resources. There is a legitimate reason why Americans want to stop the uncontrolled influx of people that are destroying our nation. It is undeniable that every African and South and Central American country dominate by indian hispanics in the world are failures and it's not the USA's fault.
     
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    Mostly he does it to open a can of worms to use as bait to get his foes talking so they'll expose themselves for who they really are.

    Those who've been following Trump for years as I have, particularly during the "Apprentice," knows he's a master at this game.
     
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    Yup. Tweeting that (the Squad) should go back to their own COUNTRIES may have been a misspeak. He obviously had Omar in mind, but inadvertently included the other three. Since that time he has commented more along the line of them going back to their problem ridden districts that elected them and fixing the problems there before they presume to lecture or assume moral authority over the rest of us as to what we should and should not be allowed to do, think, believe, say, etc.

    I think it probably was a misspeak, but it could have been deliberate. Trump is a master at pulling the chain of Democrats and their surrogate media, and he knew the knee jerk reaction that tweet would provoke. Pelosi had been successfully distancing the Democrat Party from the radical, volatile Squad at the time of that tweet. And then boom!! All immediately closed ranks behind the four and defended them. And voila!! The Squad is now the unified face of the Democrats and the Democrat Party. Which given the low approval rating of the four ladies probably is not a good thing for them.

    President Trump is sometimes brilliant like that. :)
     
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    I tell this forum how I also spend the newshour period over at PBS that I connect to on youtube. There the daily rant is Trump is racist. i deny it there and here. I wish more joined me from 6 pm Eastern time to tell the chat people there how it really is.

    Trump is no more racist than I am still in Fremont, Ca. I departed Fremont on June 3 for Idaho. Frankly I expected this desert area to be sizzling hot. And when it warms up, it is very late in the afternoon. Fremont would warm up earlier in the day. This place can be 85 at 5 pm and at 7 pm be 90. Fremont cools off past 5 Pm in general.

    Wait this is about racism.

    First hear me out. We all have rights. We have rights to believe. We find in reading Democrats rants, they believe a lot of things that simply are not true. We have the same rights as they have and can also believe BS no matter what it is. It is our right.

    Is that clear?

    As to race superiority, we can always test for that. Why not? We test for IQ and watch how stinking ugly are the Democrats over what they say bad about Trump.

    I will not pass a judgement now on race but let me ask a few questions here.

    Is there a race that has had affirmative action laws created for it? That signals a weak person in that they must get serious help.
    Is there a race that has had special laws provided merely for that race?
    Is there a race that is seeking payment from the taxpaying base?
    Is there a race that got special treatment at schools?

    Clearly we are discussing a race deemed by law to not be superior nor even equal. I am not saying my thinking, i am using what is law to ask good questions.
     
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    A very fair minded analysis. Well done.
     
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    I'm sorry to hear that. I hope you continue to prosper.
     
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    That cannot happen in Oz. You are not legally allowed to include colour, religion, sexual preference etc etc as a judgement of who you select. Of course one would never know if those things were a factor but as it is outlaws (racial discrimination act of federal Parliament) it can happen. The fact there has been an act passed several years ago endorsed an anti racism move and that shift has help this country move forward on the issue.
     
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    I've been, like many, studying Trump for a long time. Many people don't look at the BIG picture with him and his comments, they nit pick on what is clearly shallow thinking on his part (with words)which downloads to using phrases that could be better thought out at least for a US president. However, that is him. Trump is Trump and this world is tired of the same dudes time and time again filling us with the usual dribble flanked by "acceptable" comments.

    Trump doesn't mince words, is unpredictable (I think that is a good thing to countries like Russia, China and NK) but above all he has the business mind to remedy USA's past financial decisions that resulted in distributing its wealth to other countries at the expense of its own growth.
    Trump was voted in for that reason- action. Like him or loathe him he is committed to your country. The lack of tact in his comments allows his opponents to focus on those flaws all the while missing the bigger picture.
     
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    CNN calling Trump's tweet racist is ridiculous and why their ratings are in the dumps. Only people that want to be lied to watch them.
     
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    Good to hear. But as you mentioned a nod and a wink between those in charge can deny anyone. Just like the police will find probable cause if they want to search your vehicle, lol.
     
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    Trump didn’t question their politics or policies, he mocked them for their nationality. It may not be racism, but it’s only half step away.
     
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    ""But there's no white women in the squad's camp"


    How many years was the Presidency, the Congress all white.....does that mean it was racist?
     
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    So you agree - its NOT racism.
    Good for you.
     
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    Close enough not to quibble about, and not far away enough to claim moral victory. He stained himself, and disrespected the nation, his oath of office, and the Presidency.

    He may not be an American “Adolf Hitler”, and his rallies aren’t as elaborate as Hitler’s Nuremberg Rallies were, but he is taking the nation one step closer towards that nightmare.
     
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    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ho...Fire-Department-feels-heat-after-12758790.php

    "Recruiting more women is a “priority” for the department, he wrote."

    https://abc13.com/archive/8958239/

    "We would like to flood the exam with members from our family and neighborhoods with over 50-60 percent taking the test looking just like us or from our neighborhood."

    http://www.houstonsun.com/2013/07/02/at-the-time-i-wasnt-thinking-about-black-history/

    However, when Brooks heard the Houston Fire Department was seeking African Americans

    The TSA is no different...

    "According to OPM's FY 2006 report, all 23 independent federal agencies exceeded their racial quotas for hiring blacks by dozens or even hundreds of percent."

    http://www.adversity.net/fed_stats/OPM2007/001_blacksFY2006.htm

    Whatever helps you sleep at night. Not sure what Utopia you live in, but in the real world, you can absolutely be denied a job for any reason whatsoever. My wife is a recruiter... the companies she recruits for do it all the time.

    But you're right... there is a "law" that prevents it. :bonk:
     
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    Their anti-American and anti-Semitic positions are core of the criticism.
     
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    It means that in America everyone is free to express love for Big Brother. Many do.
     
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    Republican politicians who grovel to the press can get some good press early in an election cycle.
     
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    I consider all of the "isms" the province of people of low intellect, they have to have some way to put down others thinking it will elevate themselves. If it wasn't race, it'd be something else; anything else. Of course I'll continue to prosper, I'd consider anyone who allows another human being to take their joy in life, who would deter their prosperity to be of low intelligence too... a wussy. I find their bigotry laughable.
     
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    Some very intelligent people were bigots. Woodrow Wilson, for one.

    Calling people bigots, of low intelligence, is just your way of putting others down thinking it will elevate your self.
     
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    That's how I see it too. A flawed human being who has sinned in his personal life and maybe isn't even a role model we would want our kids to mimic. And he is sometimes petty, petulant, crass at times, not what one would describe as a polished orator. Some of his comments and tweets are cringeworthy and at times I just want to shout at him to shut up. I don't know if I would like him personally. But he is who he is. And he has kept faith with the people who elected him.

    He is the first President in my memory who put America and Americans first before his own political or personal fortunes. The first President in my memory who didn't just shrug and give up if something was really hard. He is able to negotiate and compromise to achieve a goal, but he hangs in there like a terrier and doesn't sell us out just to get a deal. He is the first President in my memory who doesn't operate via partisanship, polls, or ideology but simply identifies the problem and does his best to address and fix it. And he has kept more campaign promises and gotten more done and accomplished more that has made a significant positive difference than any President in my now very long lifetime. The President loves a challenge and he doesn't easily accept no as the answer.

    Unless something significantly changes in the next 16 months, he has earned my vote for a second term.
     
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    You appear to have a problem addressing the issue

    Resorting to a personal attack is pathetic and a sign of intellectual weakness. .
     
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    Yes, the can get good press any time except for during a campaign. But their groveling must include criticism of the President or other Republicans and/or embrace leftist 'values' whatever those are at any given time. Otherwise that Republican can't count on any good press or press that doesn't include some negative pulled from his/her past or whatever to blunt any positive thing in the news story. They rarely do that to Leftists or Democrats. That is just one of the phenomenons of a press that is more leftist/Democrat propaganda and spin machine than what the Fourth Estate was intended to be.
     
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    What has he negotiated sucessfully other than perhaps a wage increase for Mexican auto workers. He has failed in North Korea. He has potentially created a war with Iran. Negotiations With China are going nowhere.

    Not much negotiating success I can see.
     
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    Strange he didn’t mention it; stranger still, he highlighted their national heritage and origins. Just how much of the collectivist ideology on your side are you willing to tolerate?
     

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