Theresa May calls for UK general election on 8th June

You'd be surprised. If it can be delayed long enough everyone will forget the referendum ever happened, especially if there is war. ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Australian_secession_referendum,_1933 )

It is just a matter of will. There is no legal impediment to revoking the Art 50 notice.

If we don't get the deal we want, prepare for that to happen regardless of who is in power. This new parliament will be able to revoke the existing notice prior to the 2-year period and issue a new Art 50, and close it, during its tenure. That can't be an accident...

 

You're forgetting there are two sides to this...and the other side will forge ahead, regardless of what GB wants or does......the die is cast, as May has said, there is no turning back - no matter how many hope for a reversal.

BTW, your way would render all future referendums useless - and no one wants to go down this path. I understand the problems GB will face, for sure I was dead against Brexit. Dumb political decisions can have terrible unintended consequences, this is one of them.........

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-39431428

 

You don't think some people want to make future referendums useless? I would suggest that every living MP (outside UKIP) want them to be eliminated.

When you say the other side, do you mean the EU? The EU would bite our hand off if we offered to revoke. At the very least, they are desperately short of net contributors to the budget. But aside from that, a successful UK would be a threat to the unity, whereas a prodigal return is a lesson for other would-be leavers.

In any event, there is no scope to eject a member of the EU unwillingly.

 

It would have been possible to have a General Election on it before declaring article 50. I don't think it is about anyone having guts. It's like saying any democracy in this country is a farce - and hence helping the fascists.

The popular mandate was the Referendum and on that the leaves got 52%. In reality the Lib Dems will get nothing like that. Corbyn is far more likely to win than them and they would not get the support of Parliament in general. It would not have more clout than the Referendum. The referendum was an advisory Referendum but Parliament voted by a massive majority to accept that as the will of the people and to declare Article 50. It is just fantasy as the Liberals are not going to get an overall majority even less one of 52% of the population. Scotland and Northern Ireland can leave and make our own arrangements with the EU because we voted to stay but England and Wales voted to leave and that vote has been completely accepted. You are more likely to set off English terrorism than anything else. The leaves would blame everything on it.

Well if we are going to go back to reality. It might get the LibDems a few more Tory seats but that is it.

I know you are. Maybe it is the way that is hiding your eyes. They would be a fool to try it and it would not give them an overall majority and would most certainly not give them the right to tear up article 50. This all sounds like children playing games.

Right, you go against all the rated economists so much so that there is an agreement on this.

First EU workers pay more than their share of the health services. Second your idea of bringing in people to use as even cheaper labour is crazy. The whole problem people have had with EU workers is that the come in and work hard and are prepared to work for less - that is the argument. The way out of that is to have fixed regulation on pay. Your way and your idea of paying them even less will only make matters worse and not allow them sufficient money to look after themselves - really you seem to be wanting a kind of slavery. As for sending them back home when they become sick ------eeeek,

 

Just to let people know McCluskey has been re-elected as head of Unite so a boost to Corbyn

https://www.theguardian.com/politic...e-elected-leader-of-unite-union-jeremy-corbyn

Only 12% of the union voted .

 

I agree. I'm not advocating we change to a Parliamentary system. I am suggesting exactly what you prescribe in getting rid of the Electoral College, which is making the whole concept of "American democracy" look like a bad joke. But the Parliamentary system DOES provide a faster, easier, more direct way of getting rid of bad leaders than our cumbersome, seldom-successful impeachment process. Being stuck with inept leadership for 4 years with no recourse is not only painful, but destructive to our government, our society and our nation.

 

Not just our government, our society and our nation, we have a major impact on THE WORLD.
People in other countries are shaking their heads at us - "Wait, you have an election, you count the votes, then the loser is declared the winner???"
It is ludicrous.

 

We are in complete agreement.

 

May is a clever girly, she knows now is the time for a General Election and she should win hands down because Labour are falling apart under Corbyn, and UKIP are virtually leaderless because Farage has gone..