This Didn't Age Well! Rachel Maddow's Recent Hospital Ship Prediction Sinks To Fake News Depths

Sure thing. Just be careful when explaining it to Joe, he might think hes wonder woman and take his invisible plane for a spin. (Splat)

 

The POTUS is a seriously disturbed psychopath, but that's not an "issue" to conservatives.

 

Wait till he puts the Magic Lasso on Trump and makes him reveal the peepee tapes

 

Of course it's there.

TALKING to doctors is not the same thing as BEING a doctor! People know this - even Trump supporters!

Nobodies "scientific knowledge" has all the answers of life's questions - that's why people chose to accept religion. There are also many religious scientists which you seem to be totally unaware of.

We simply have a different understanding of 'influence' that's all. I'm arguing that influence depends on the subject matter. At the same time, I am saying that Trump has way more REACH than Fauci.

 

He simply WAS. Using "email which was not secure" and not including "his immediate superior on the ship", was operating outside of the chain of command. However, all of the people that he sent it to were in his chain of command. There's a difference which you obviously aren't quite able to get your head around. Don't worry about it though. If you really want me to source a quote of the Secretary of Navy saying that he went outside of the chain of command, then I will. To be fair to you, it's confusing. I actually think that it would be better to say that someone guilty of this is going outside of the Standard Operating Procedure. That would seem to make more sense than saying that they went outside of the chain of command even when everyone they sent the thing to were inside of their chain of command.

Being fired is on par with being arrested! Surely you can't be serious!

You'll have to be more specific.

And therefore by HIS standard, he is responsible in the same way that he thought Obama was responsible. However, Trump's standard isn't YOUR standard surely. Is it?

Well he can't be blamed for every negative thing simply because pandemic non-preparedness has been an issue since the Bush administration!

 

So do you suppose he acknowledges that his numbers are wrong?

 

It would be an issue if you discussed specifics of why you believe him to be a "seriously disturbed psychopath." Otherwise the comment is just an angst driven rant. See the difference between specifics and a rant?

 

Rachel Maddow is either a disturbed psychopath conspiracy nut, or a tool that will say anything for a paycheck, but that doesn’t seem to be a “issue” to leftists.

 

Maddow is television personality. She is not the POTUS and does far less harm. Trump is a clear and present danger to us and the nation of the US.

 

She claims that it only sank because no one was willing to put their finger in the dyke.

 

Besides all the drama queen nonsense, Maddow went full Glenn Beck, all she was missing was the chalkboard. But oh yeah, she helped whip the gullible that didn’t mind being manipulated into a frenzy about Russian nonsense, just like Beck did when Obama got elected.

 

Where to begin

For just one example his recent responses to the Corona crisis. Americans are dying in greater numbers than in almost any other epidemic since the Spanish flu, yet our President is uniquely concerned about this:


https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/03/donald-trump-peter-alexander-coronavirus-press-conference

 

Where to begin

For just one example his recent responses to the Corona crisis. Americans are dying in greater numbers than in almost any other epidemic since the Spanish flu, yet our President is uniquely concerned about things like this:

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/03/donald-trump-peter-alexander-coronavirus-press-conference

 

It's also a matter of trust. And people trust Donald since the entire US is rather split between haters and believers. Donald has a massive reach and right up to the crisis his ratings were rather ok as well. Time put in on the list of the most influential people on the planet. This is all not disputable. And you have not proved your point. So you know....

 

You sourced "The fact that he wrote the letter to his chain of command to express his concerns would absolutely not result in any type of retaliation."

And you're denying that it says so in your own source.
Rather dishonest.

Being arrested for causing a panic, is the same as being reassigned for the media finding out that there is a panic.
He hasn't been fired. The gimp who got him reassigned had to quit or else had to be fired.

http://letmegooglethat.com/?q=general+DeWitt+curfew

He lied about how deadly that virus is, so the US was not informed what was going to happen. Of course I'm holding him responsible for that and that people did not apply social distancing, spreading the disease. the WHO advised that in January.

I haven't seen you take into account that memo and Donald lying how deadly the virus is, while you do acknowledge that the memo exists.

 

OF COURSE people trust him, but this doesn't meant that they see him as an authority on epidemiology!

All correct.

 

How the hell am I denying it? I said in my last post, "however, all of the people that he sent it to were in his chain of command." However, by using "email which was not secure" and by not including "his immediate superior on the ship", he was operating outside of the chain of command.There's a difference which you obviously aren't quite able to get your head around. Don't worry about it though. Again, if you really want me to source a quote of the Secretary of Navy saying that he went outside of the chain of command, then I will. To be fair to you, it's confusing. I actually think that it would be better to say that someone guilty of this is going outside of the Standard Operating Procedure. That would seem to make more sense than saying that they went outside of the chain of command even when everyone they sent the thing to were inside of their chain of command.

Okay, so even MORE of a distinction then! Being reassigned is on par with being arrested! Surely you can't be serious! And he wasn't reassigned simply because the media found out. The guy who removed him from duty even said that there is no evidence that he personally leaked it to the media.

No evidence that he "had to quit or else had to be fired" unless you can prove me wrong which I HIGHLY doubt!

His UNCONSTITUTIONAL curfew? :ROFLOL: What's your point?

Are you actually under the impression that at one stage, Trump had information that not ONE SINGLE other person in the government had, not even top CDC officials? Surely not!

You mean the memo that WASN'T from the CDC, but was from the TRADE ADVISOR? I'm sorry, is that a source that you trust? What does a trade guy know about viruses?

 

I never promoted the idea that he is more of an authority on epidemiology.
I argued he has far more influence. And you haven't proved that he hasn't.

 

And by influence, what you really mean is REACH. And I agree with you on that.

 

Your source said it was in his chain of command. Period.
I'm not accepting your twisting and turning that it in such a way that it's outside the chain of command.

You're just being petty. I am equating that the alleged panic caused by the public is what they got in common.

It is so by absence of not having any other reason why he resigned when he called that captain stupid in the faces of those sailors. Same sailors whose lives the captain was busy with saving. One died by the way. The captain made the right call. Obviously. Just like that doctor in China. The entire idea that something like a 100 of the 4000 were infected,.. as if the other people would never be infected is just dishonest. Social distancing on an aircraft carrier. We all know they didn't build a ship to be like that. And I'll be guessing that your health would be in big problems real fast if you went up to them sailors, busy with dead colleague, that it aint a biggy and go back to work. You have no respect for the navy. That's for sure.

What unconstitutional? Source it.

I dunno what is funny about a president that is holding back information of a deadly virus that is now killing 10,000's of people.

The guy coordinates the efforts of the defense production act to battle virus. And you're just deflecting away that the WH knew how deadly the virus was, while Donald blasted all over the media that it wouldn't be so bad.

 

Nope. That is just part of it. It also has to do with believing/accepting what such a person says. You narrowing it down to only knowledge, is clearly not it. I already made it clear that the rather high % of people believing in creationism and not sciences just tosses that idea out the window. While you failed to prove your point how that effects influence and specifically about Fauci.

 

Yes, which depends on the subject matter.

And I already made it clear that creationism provides answers where science cannot. And I already made it clear that there are many religious scientists which you seem to be totally unaware of.

If you need legal advice, are you going to go to a lawyer, or someone who is not a lawyer?

 

~ CNN plays to the theater and drama of politics. It's doubtful that any of the on-air "personalities" even believe what they say. Most are likely actors hired to fit a role. They seem to do a vey good job playing their parts and appeasing the audience.

 

Is it? The influence of the religious fruitcakes blasting around their idea's of creationism has nothing to do with science, but believing and their reach.

Answers? It's made up nonsense. There is nothing scientific about it.

That doesn't solve that you failed to prove your point how that effects influence and specifically about Fauci.

 

Your sentence includes two separate subjects: creationism and science.

Well that's your opinion. I assume that you weren't stating it as FACT.

Of course there's nothing scientific about it, but science doesn't have all the answers and that's why people look to something else.

There's nothing to prove. Fauci is an epidemiology expert and as such he has influence on the subject.

You didn't answer, so I'll assume that you're not a complete idiot and you would in fact go to a lawyer for legal advice. The reason being because you would be influenced by their opinion.