This Didn't Age Well! Rachel Maddow's Recent Hospital Ship Prediction Sinks To Fake News Depths

It doesn't matter.
It shows the power of Donald over Faucci....

AND... this is about influence. I also got:
And that Donald has way more followers who read what he has to say about it on twitter.
And that Donald has the main stage on press conferences in the WH, as well on his political rallies.
He is a guest on Fox news... most popular news tv media in the US.
Fox news also blasts his message all the time.
I sourced that Donald is in the top 100 most influential people.

This isn't about who has more knowledge, but about who has more influence

 

Nope. He wrote to his superiors, the chain of command.

It's rather clear you haven't looked it up. Assume they have not to the point that you're accusing them they did not.
But you do not know if they did. You refuse to look it up. That's very dishonest of you.

not "completely"... right. Do specify this.

Not relevant to the point if it is or is not constitutional.

Do respond to if he can -according to you- take credit for marriages.

 

This is about influence, not science. About 30 to 40% (depending what source you like to see) believes in creationism in the US. That aint science! That's the influence of all kinds of different faiths! It's a massive % in the US who don't give a a sh about science! lol Your entire argument who is more scientific hence he has more influence is out the door.

 

Knowledge makes someone influential.

 

That depends on the TYPE of creationism. Some creationists are inclined to go along with the scientific consensus of the world being millions of years old. And the part of creationism which theorises the origin of life is simply filling a hole which no concrete science can fill.

 

Point remains many believe that God just made mankind etc, against all scientific research. You're entire idea that because Fauci is a scientist means he has more influence than the president is out the window. Donald claims he talks to scientists all the time. He tweets about it. He's on Fox. A very popular tv station. His messages is blasted all over by them. Donald has full control of how his press conferences are about. He makes Fauci shut up at them if he feels like it. He is in the top 100 most influential persons on the planet. When Donald claims the Chinese have lied about their science... you GOP are at his lips. And here you are... "but people believe in science of Fauci". I haven't seen it. And mostly... YOU haven't proved it.

 

If God didn't make life, then who or what DID?

I'm not sure what you mean by, "about their science", but the Chinese HAVE lied! They lied ALOT!

It's pretty obvious. The man is a doctor after all.

And I haven't seen that people believe in the SCIENCE of Trump! And mostly... YOU haven't proved it!

 

You seem to be under the impression that religious scientists don't exist.

 

You obviously don't know anything about military chain of command. Going to every single superior is not the chain of command.
He was fired for going outside the chain of command. It really is THAT simple. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-poli.../navy-modly-captain-fired-coronavirus-crozier

They arrested the doctor for bringing something to their attention. People aren't arrested for bringing something to the attention of their government if their government don't want to cover it up. It really is THAT simple.

So are you saying that a federal curfew should be implemented?

Aren't you saying that the federal government should tell the sates what to do?

Did the Marriage Act happen under Trump? Anything good that has happened in the country from government action since he has been president, he can take credit for.

 

You're just pushing goalposts... yet it remains that there is nothing scientific about believing in God

Donald claimed he worked very well with the Chinese at the start. Them were the times they made that memo millions could die.
Donald at that time lied that it wouldn't be so bad. HE lied A LOT. He just hid that knowledge from the US and blames the Chinese.
Very petty.

This is about influence. And I've made a tremendous argument that Donald has that in a massive way.
At no point were you even attempting to claim Fauci has more influence on this.
You were more concerned if Fauci has knowledge. That's not the same.

 

Your source...
The fact that he wrote the letter to his chain of command to express his concerns would absolutely not result in any type of retaliation.

Do keep up... lol

So much for your it's not constitutional argument... lol

Oh good lord... you sound just like a North Korean adoring his dictator. lol

 

And if you read on two paragraphs below the above which you have quoted:

But the next day, Modly said that Crozier had shown “poor judgment” by sending his letter through
email which was not secure to up to 30 people, and that his immediate superior on the ship was not among them.

Do keep up! The people that he sent the letter to were indeed in his chain of command, but he didn't operate WITHIN the chain of command by using "email which was not secure" (Hillary Clinton) and also by not informing his "immediate superior." Although, I can certainly understand how you got confused by reading the sentence that you quoted in the Vox article.

A curfew would probably be constitutional on a LOCAL level, but you're talking about a federal order aren't you?

LOL! I know! This whole time I haven't been being serious. I was trying to make a point. You think that Trump can be blamed for everything NEGATIVE that has happened in the country from government action since he has been president, yet you don't think that he can take the credit for everything POSITIVE that has happened in the country from government action since he has been president. We call that a GROSS double standard! No surprises there of course, since you folk on the left are very good at having double standards!

 

I don't think we know yet the source of the memo do we?

As I've said before, knowledge CREATES influence! I think that you are really talking about REACH! And you'd be 100% correct that Trump has more REACH than Fauci.

 

Given fauci is using invalid statistical analysis in his death rates which he uses over and over and over again is indicative of his inherent dishonesty.

 

How are they invalid?

 

Because he’s using the number of diagnosed cases in the denominator when he determines the death rate and then uses that incorrect death rate to estimate massive amounts of casualties that aren’t going to occur.

The death rate he uses is determined by taking the number of deaths and dividing them by the number of DIAGNOSED infected. But he completely ignored the fact that 50% who get the virus are asymptomatic. He also ignored the PLETHORA of people who do have symptoms but they are not severe enough to send them to the hospital.

If you include those other two groups in the denominator for his death rate, and as such his estimated number of deaths, it decreases in orders of magnitude.

 

Want to try again and make some sense, why are you so desperate to try and mitigate what she said with bogus comparisons?

 

No buts. You claimed "he was fired for going outside of the chain of command".... and he wasn't. He is blamed that this message was leaked to the press.... that's the "poor judgement of not using a secure email". That's on par with why that doctor got arrested or whatever... for causing a panic when the public found out.

Like general DeWitt did to the Japanese Americans during WWII?

Donald blamed Obama for his alleged poor handeling of the swine flu. So Donald thinks a virus outbreak and how it's handled is part of the job of the president.

Donald also made a heck of a lot of claims in January and February about being well prepared and it won't be so bad. He aint delivering at all. It's bad. People are dying horrible all over besides people being fired by the 100.000's and with that lose their healthcare.

Your entire idea of he can't be blamed for every negative thing...
I dunno why a virus break aint part of it. He's on the news everyday about it.
You're just trolling around, and think you made a point. Just sad...

 

I don't think we got anybody disputing it's there, do we?

Nope. When Donald says he knows is all. Claims he talked to the best doctors about it. Etc etc. Than it's all a matter of believing it's so. Like religion. I already proved too many idiots believe in creationism to assume somebodies scientific knowledge is a massive thing to take into account if they have influence. And I am 100% correct Donald has more influence. I sourced it. You sourced nothing to back up your claims.

 

You're free to post better predictions and the data behind it.

 

You understand the idea of making a comparison. No need to be dishonest about as if you don't, and need me to rephrase it.

This is not about me

 

No you can try that one again and it's about your attempts to mitigate what she said, why?

 

I don't see why mitigating this by making a comparison is wrong. Seems you got a problem that right wing media flat out lied about the covfefevirus and I make a just comparison how left wing media hardly was wrong on a some small thing. Do note the right wing media that mentions this "casually" omits when she said this and when the boat left. If the headline was that Maddows was wrong by 5 days, than nobody would have read the article. This is just petty, and doesn't compare well at all what fox ranted in the past about the virus. Get over it.

 

Compared to Trump he will be the Wonder of the World

 

Jeebus, you're so good at history