This guy's not alone...

No.. If you got it, you wouldn't be riding the same dead horse, unaware of how ridiculous it looks.

 

Leftists are in no position to judge moral centers after willfully murdering 50 million unborn babies in the name of personal convenience. Leftists do this and then strut around bragging how superior they are to slaveowners...who at least didn't murder their unwanted.

 

Yes, that is what I wrote and every word of it true yet you accuse me of the very thing liberals are universally guilty of. Liberals are very linear in their thinking and if something doesn't agree with their agenda they ignore it. It was once an annoyance but it is now beyond ridiculous. What was once dogmatic and pontifical has evolved into violence and insurrection on a national scale. George Floyd's death was unfortunate but it did not merit what took place, it did not accomplish anything, nothing, zero. It may have had some temporary sense of warped gratification but it solved nothing. This is a net set back for blacks in America not progress. Every time the black community makes a great step forward someone comes along that creates a crisis that erases it. I can tell you that, that "someone" is not the conservatives. That is what I meant by seeing injustice where none exists. George Floyd's death was caused by one man not an entire nation. Being disproportionately offended by everything is assigning responsibility for mostly imagined indiscretions, I'm not talking about large issues but a lot of nit picking at nothing, that is not natural, normal or healthy and very often hypocritical. Can you not see how divisive that is with larger issues. What you see as dismissive is an unwillingness to take our eye of the ball, to not be distracted by anything that subtracts from the greater good. Solving America's problems is every American's responsibility and we are very close but cannot solve anything with manufactured division and distractions.

 

Bolded parts cannot be said enough.

It's terribly easy to be flippant or dismissive about the left, but telling the truth hurts them worse than even a well-tuned lie. The left are grievance-mongers. Injustice-collectors. Completely outraged far beyond what a situation merits. Larger issues are divisive enough without their manufactured piety getting in the way.

 

The problem with that statement is that "fairness" is totally subjective.

For example, Person A is productive, is frugal, and makes good financial decisions and accumulates some wealth for his family. Person B is unproductive, spends like crazy, and accumulates debt. Fairness to the left is that we must take wealth from Person A and redistribute it to Person B in the name of fairness. Fairness to the right is that you reap what you sow. Generally speaking, fairness according to the left consists of trying to get even with the productive members of society. Fairness according to the right consists of promoting self responsibility and self reliance.

Nope, in general, conservatives are overjoyed when minorities become successful - because that is an affirmation that America works. And it is undeniable that massive numbers of minorities are successful, they are productive, they make good decisions, and they build a great life for themselves. Racism is a very minor issue in this country, but a very small, exceedingly vocal group of people, aided by the MSM, want to push divisiveness and strife. The fact that so many minorities are successful is proof of the above.

It is interesting that you use the term "feel" in the above sentence. And you are correct, all it is is feelings. If the people you speak of would put their energy into making a successful life for themselves, instead of succumbing to the liberal mantra that they will never succeed in life, they would be much better off and they would achieve success. There are simply too many minorities that have achieved the American Dream to think that racism is what is holding everyone down. "Feeling" wronged is exactly what keeps them down - it is themselves that do that, aided and abetted by the left.

Nothing to do with "white men." Everything to do with putting in the effort to become successful. What conservatives believe is that the United States is the greatest country to ever exist, and that the ability to achieve the American Dream is something sacred. So when minorities are successful, it is an affirmation of our beliefs that the American system is the greatest ever built. We want minorities to be successful, we want them to achieve the American Dream, we want them to be productive citizens, to be self-reliant and self-responsible. It does our hearts good. And the fact that huge numbers of minorities are successful affirms these very things.

 

I am aware who looks ridiculous.

Total dodge....another example of the upright morality of the right?

"seeing injustice where none exists"....May I quote myself? "Conservatives always had the ability to dismiss an entire group's opinion, be it race, sex, ethnicity as invalid. They have never been correct."

Well, you got the first sentence right....from there it gets dodgy.

Fairness to the right is you reap what you sow. To the left, believe it or not , you reap what you sow and there should be a level playing field so you get what you sow.

The argument against "conservatives tend to denigrate or dismiss the complaints of groups that feel wronged" is conservatives are happy when a minority is successful?? Then you go on to say racism is a "very minor" issue in this country. Well not to the people feeling victimized and proving my point.

You don't seem to get feelings or opinions change over time. Today 60% of Americans believe Confederate statues should come down. I had no "feelings" on the subject one way or the other 10 years ago, but I do have the ability to empathize. And you go on with the strange opinion that the liberal mantra is they (groups that want a level playing field) will never succeed in life. Quite the irrational statement, that is the whole point of leveling the playing field so they can find success. Then you add another layer of dismissiveness with "feeling wronged is what keeps them down". MLK laughed at that one.

Then you blather about you wanting minorities to be successful while telling them to shut up about what is holding them back. The conservative ideal.

 

Oh, "grievance-mongers. Injustice-collectors" reread the OP.

 

Something the liberals never do,right???? Who has never been correct?

 

You're beginning to sound like you're getting your answers from a Magic Eight Ball Read a post, give the old Eight Ball a couple of shakes and voila, "It is certain", "As I see it, yes", "It is decidedly so", "Concentrate and ask again".

 

Yes they did. Quite a few would regularly kill slaves as "examples" Frederick Douglass was quite clear in saying that he witnessed quite a few owners kill slaves who they thought were dangerous, and that he himself ran away largely because he feared for his life after having beat up his master.

Slaves were expensive, yes, but life was precious too, and the slave-owners feared the slaves more than any money might compensate. A slaver who sold a dangerous slave without warning might be called into court, or even challenged to a duel.

And at least slave-owners didn't enslave their own women to a spoonful of meiotic cells placing them into bondage in the name of their own physiology

 

If you can get your head into enough sunshine to air it out for a few minutes, perhaps you would be able to see that the thing holding blacks back ARE blacks. The people killing so many blacks ARE blacks. And the blacks who work at being good citizens are welcome, appreciated and participating in the American dream. I realize that all goes over your head. You ARE your own limitation- in what you see, what you think, what you understand, what you choose, what you ever will be- and I don't think you're cutting it right now.

 

No I don't think so. I may angrily disagree with a neo-Nazi for example but that is not being dismissive or minimizing his opinion. Maybe you have an example.
The right about the opinions of minorities.

I am sure they can understand my answers but apparently not you.

Speaking of having ones head in a dark moist area, your limitation seems to be a knowledge of history, specifically black history. In 1865 there were 4 million slaves set free, 13% of the total population of the US. Today blacks make up 13.5% of the population. Now what did being set free mean? They were uneducated, penniless and out of work and significant segments of society has conspired to keep it that way since. They've had to fight for what they have got. The right looks down their noses at them, as your comments illustrate. 55% of blacks are middle class and above. What the right doesn't like seems to be the 20% still living in poverty double white poverty, but remember they came from 100% poverty and the rest of society has done little to help them. The rights answer that I have heard many times here is pulling oneself up by bootstraps but here is what that actually means: "The saying 'to pull oneself up by one's bootstraps' was already in use during the 19th century as an example of an impossible task." Thanks for the advice right-wingers.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/hist...erstanding-systemic-racism-america-180975029/

 

There are more than one kind of "black Americans". At least- there are two, and distinctly different. One group has taken advantage of the opportunities the country has bent over backwards to provide to help them thrive; the other is determined to play on victimhood and the weakness of the bleeding hearts forever. They are pretty much sociopathic, and have no intentions of bettering themselves- because they want no responsibility and hold others accountable for their lack of everything. Same people produce the extreme rate of single parent homes and the extreme crime rates. Now every race has some of this contrast- but for some reason, it is much more pronounced among blacks. That is why the 13% of black Americans commit 53% of the murders, plus a majority of many other crimes. Given that most blacks are not criminals, that percentage is not 13%, but a much smaller number which demonstrates the high degree of that sociopathic tendency. It's clear these people don't care about black people either- because most of those they kill are blacks.

They have been trading on the injustice of the distant past since the end of slavery- and none of them were ever slaves, or ever knew people who were slaves. It's a cultural thing. Of course many live in poverty. When you live off the system, you will be at a poverty level. But if they were being held down, why have we had a black president, many. many black millionaires, CEO's, famous artists, sports figures with record breaking salaries? Because the proportion of black being "held down" aren't being held down- they are holding out, refusing to join society, and instead choose to prey on it.

IF you were as smart as you think you are, you would be able to see the contrast within the black community The lower class of their population is so bad the rest of them are appalled. It's not possible to help people who won't help themselves- and you don't measure what society does by looking at the choices those people make. I've personally been involved in providing major benefits to blacks in poverty- wonderful, generous benefits- and watched them trash it out of sheer hostility. I've known many fine black people, and unlike most whites- sometimes had frank discussions on race with them They refer to the trash among them as ******s, because they too hate the way they behave. It's a situation you certainly don't understand, and I would suggest you talk to some of those good black people and ask how they see it. Ask people who know, rather than those that con you. That is, IF you know any. Sounds like you don't, or you wouldn't be talking the trash line.

 

1.well once you yank it out of mommies tummy it is dead of course.
2. The phrase separation of church and state appears no where in the constitution. It appears only in the federalist papers and there the context makes it clear that religion is supposed to be protected from the federal government not the other way around.
3. Entirely horse ****.
4. Only when owned by a religious body.
5.nope but in the last 50 years the left has made a cottage industry of blaming everyone but the criminals for crime.
6.Nope, but if you have no skill set and aren't willing to learn one you aren't going to get a job.

 

Agree.

Re 6- And when you go in to apply for a job so you can show the welfare people you are trying, it's really easy to not get hired. I've turned down many- who then asked me to sign their paper confirming the applied. They come in with an obvious indignant attitude, and their first words insure they won't get hired: You ain't hirin, are ya? Whaddupay? No, we are not hiring.....
On the other hand, we are always hiring when valuable people are found.

When you hire, you are buying a product of service- and you want it to perform, provide the value you are trying to buy, be worth what it costs.
When you are applying for a job- you are selling your product to a customer, not applying for social service benefits.
Without the fundamental qualities of reliability, honesty and similar characteristic- which are things anybody can bring to the table if they wish- you have nothing of value, regardless of your skill level. You will not get a job, or a job of any real value.

 

I'm thinking of publishing a magazine for liberals. I'll call it SNIVEL.

 

One should not forget however that hiring us a two way street. You're selling your company as well. And good people will turn down offers from companies where the people doing the hiring and firing seem callous and uncaring. I've had the peculiar misfortune of outlasting many of the companies I've worked for. And I've quit other jobs because the guy running it treated his people like crap. I retired early not because I wanted to but because my peculiar combination of diseases meant I simply couldn't contribute at the level I was accustomed to and wasn't willing to lie to my boss about it.

 

This is of course, true- but in the long run, companies who don't treat employees well rarely thrive, because they can neither attract nor keep good people. You as an employee are free to accept, reject, quit or stay in a job at any time without having to explain yourself or conform to various labor laws, and that is far from the case as an employer. The point is that if you make yourself the product of choice, you will find the best buyers are seeking you. If you demonstrate that you have little to bring to the table, only the bottom end of employers- who must hire the worst because they can't attract the best- will hire you. The reason I opened my first business at 26 was that I was working for a successful company, run by a tyrant who didn't respect anybody. When he got around to throwing trash at me- I quit.

Most importantly, people seeking jobs would be wise to realize they are making a business agreement, not being accepted into a social service program. It IS a two-way street.

 

Attitude is one thing but how that person will come across to the company's regular clients is also a factor. Older clientele at upscale restaurants would not return if their favorite eatery gave in to waiters with facial tattoos and ten pounds of facial metal.

 

Had one of these freak shows wait on me at one a chain restaurant. Metal, tattoos, the droopy earlobes with the frisbees jammed in them, verrrrry attractive and I couldn't tell if it was male or female. I just got up and started to walk out but the manager stopped me and asked if there was a problem and I told her I just lost my appetite. I told her I wouldn't be back and planned to make a complaint with the corporate office.

 

Ya mean like this guy?.....

http://www.thelizardman.com/

 

True; and color of such a person doesn't matter. Customers in any business want to deal with quality people. Self respect controls character- the quality of people.
If you find it necessary for you to put any significant permanent graffiti or distorting piercings on your body to make yourself acceptable to yourself, I will have no doubt you lack self respect in the first place.
Thus- I will doubt you have character. It's that simple. It's not an absolute thing- but a very good indicator.

While older people are more likely to see it this way, younger people with solid self-respect usually understand it too. Of course, people who have done it to themselves have no choice but to exempt all like them from that parameter.

The body you have is the only piece of natural art you will ever own. You won't abuse it unless you don't like it or respect it.

 

Something like that, the appearance is distracting and screams extreme mental issues.

 

I read some of the posts here and feel exactly the same! But I digress....

 

Fully agree. As I've said for years, it's easy to make more money, acquire a more valuable skill set, but never forget the value of any skill set changes over time. A skill set that paid top dollar 20 years ago might not get you in the door today.