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  1. FatBack

    FatBack Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure why you deflected to Trump what are your thoughts on China lying to the world and their actions
     
  2. FatBack

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    Read his reply to the person you are speaking to, the op admitted to embellishing his tale
     
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    That whole thing was my first clue that he couldn't handle the pandemic. Early on, they said that he banned travel and then Pelosi was recorded going into China town so people would know they weren't responsible for the virus arriving in the US. I can't recall the details relative to days elapsed, but Trump backed down and reversed his decision. He is just way too thin-skinned for my liking. He was the POTUS. He could have told Pelosi where to go and it's even more frustrating because, at that time, he was the only person that knew what was coming. For somebody that likes to talk a big game, he is way too whiny, vindictive and clueless. He was way out of his league in the Oval Office.
     
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    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    Imagine you turn on a TV and Rachel Maddow is blathering-

    Rachel Maddow Says Vaccines Stop All Transmission of ...
    https://www.youtube.com › watch

    Dec 27, 2021 — In this segment, MSNBC host Rachel Maddow falsely claims the COVID-19 vaccine will stop transmission.CDC director Rochelle Walensky told CNN ...

    So you go and get double vaxxed, and then you get boosted.

    And then you get covid, and you're flat on your back and sick as a gutshot dog for two weeks.

    I don't have to imagine it, because it happened to me. Not a friend of a friend of an acquaintance. ME. It happened to me.

    Yes, I believe that the virus is real, because it kicked my ass.

    What I DON'T believe is the numbskulls who keep insisting that the covid vaccines are some sort of magical spell of protection that is going to stop the virus in its tracks, and save us all from certain doom.

    The plain reality is that covid vaccination is a Band Aid that can help to ease the pain of the pandemic a bit. It's not the magic potion you tried to sell it as, and you continue to try and sell it as, because of your politics, and your paranoia.

    It's beyond obvious that covid vaccinations were WAY overhyped and oversold, and yet some people just can't stop themselves from continuing to preach the miracle of the holy vaccination water with a burning religious zeal.
     
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    ~ Glad you are OK . Yes these vaccines are a big disappointment and the government is a big mystery . Very suspicious ... :blankstare:
     
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    Creasy Tvedt Well-Known Member

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    That's not accurate. Trump's covid travel restrictions pertaining to China were still in place a year after Nancy Pelosi's Chinatown shenanigans.

    Biden says he will reverse Trump's order to lift the coronavirus ...
    https://www.businessinsider.com › Politics › Travel

    Jan 19, 2021 — President-elect Biden has promised to reverse efforts by President Donald Trump ... Restrictions on travel from China and Iran would remain.

    So that pretty much defeats your argument.
     
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    So it's certainly not a matter of compassion then.

    So why do you want people to get vaccinated? You obviously don't care if the unvaccinated suffer and die.

    Could it be that you're a typical authoritarian leftist who demands compliance and obedience? You just love to see those danged dirty Trumpers bend the knee and submit to your will?
     
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    No .. which is why I don't take the Jab.
     
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    If you choose to risk my health and the health of all the people you come in contact with by not getting yourself vaccinated I sure as hell don't give a damn about you or your health. Anything difficult to understand about that?
     
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    Covid Deniers ? -- you have some serious moron's on your friend list. Sad that your friend apparently did not take any Covid Treatments prior to hospitalization .. good chance he would have lived.
     
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    Because the magical holy water vaccine has been so effective at stopping the spread of covid, right?

    Are we still preaching that gospel?
     
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    As is coming to light lately, even the vaccinated can spread covid, so, even being vaccinated, you're still putting lives at risk when you choose to go out in public.

    So would I be justified in being a sociopath such as yourself and not giving a damn about your health?

    Or is it only the purifying holy water of vaccination that absolves one of all covid sin?
     
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    Well the op did replied to me:

    "The main story is true but I've embellished it a little bit with my own imagination".

    The whole post was written from a first person narrative. The smells, the feelings, the thoughts of whether they should answer a text. Unless you are very close to the person you are not going to get these details. I have no doubt his neighbor tragically passed away from covid like 100s of thousand that already have, I just questioned the details of his recount as being fabricated which he later admits.
     
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    Theunvaccinated are not chosing to risk your health. They don't think they are risking your health. That is what is wrong about your decision.
     
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    Yes, I can see your point. Thanks for clarifying.
     
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    Outside conspiracy theory.
    Why would ALL the World Gov'ts conspire to hide the details of the covid origin? Especially since many countries would like to see China taken down a few notches.
     
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    My decision isn't wrong, their thinking is.
     
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    Well, he gets the Darwin award for sure.
     
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    If I remember correctly there was some early pushback from places like Australia, and China pushed back forcefully, cutting them off of key resources. All of the world stock markets consider the current status quo concerning the flow of goods from China as a major factor in their valuations. Meaning that interruptions of that flow that could stem from the application of diplomatic pressure on the CCP concerning the origin of Corona, would adversely affect those markets. And by extension, that means all of the richest in the world have fortunes that are tied to the status quo flow of goods from China.
     
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    I wouldn't say before anyone heard of it. People in China mentioned a circulating virus as early as fall 2019. They were disappeared. I forget exact time, but it coincided with the hosting of that world military athletic competition.

    Can a virus mutate in response to a vaccine, and is it inevitable? Those are my questions regarding my point on the morality of some vaccines. I know about the other evolutionary factors. I'm concerned with the nonrandom one in play, considering that randomness is one of the bedrock principles of evolution...
     
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    The whole world picked and chose who could go where, and sadly, they still are. Trump was the only one right on that issue, as the initial ban was the only one with a chance of success.

    Randomness caused the Spanish flu.
     
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    It wasn't a "so called ban", because it was never called a ban.

    If you'd make the smallest bit of effort, you'd learn that is was called a "travel restriction" from day 1, and it was never called a ban.

    The reason Trump didn't restrict the travel of American citizens, is due to the simple fact that he isn't the authoritarian dictator of your fevered imagination.
     
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    Maybe your governments' decision to take this vaccination course in the first place was wrong. Poor peoples around the world without access to the vaccine could just as easily say you are risking their health by supporting a government that would create this type of sickness in a lab, and then continue to support the same people after it gets out in their plan to deal with it, which leaves the poor around the world in sort of the same lurch the elites on the Titanic tried to leave them in, when they took the lifeboats before they were full.

    Ever consider that angle? It's quite the macro view, bit imo, if actually considered, it can check vaccine righteousness.
     
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    I do think Covid can be bad for elderly like a severe flu outbreak, but for the vast majority under 65, it is hardly life threatening. I just caught covid yesterday and was only sick for less than 24 hours. And by sick, I had high temps and chills/aches. Woke up today everything normal. Less than 24 hours and felt like a mild flu, but tested positive for Covid. Didn't need any vax to help me with that.
     
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    Nobody has the solution. Just keep calm and let time pass by. Humanity and Coronavirus will learn to coexist.
     

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