This is the gun control legislation Mitch McConnell won't allow senators to vote on

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  1. TomFitz

    TomFitz Well-Known Member

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    Don’t worry, that’s not going to happen.

    McConnell will not cross the NRA. Not because he gets money from them, but because they take his lead on who they give their money to.

    The other reason is because he can’t trust Trump.

    If he could count on either consistency, loyalty, or intelligence from Trump, he would call the session and set the stage. And he would let the cable news debate go on for as long as he was sure he still had the votes to block debate, and thus the bill, and not one second longer.

    By that time, they’re hoping Trump will come up with some new noisy but meaningless BS to help the audience entertained.

    The real problems with all this are twofold. First, McConnell already knows that Trump will try and take all sides of the issue, telling the press, or his staff, or some crony one thing, and then tweeting the opposite. It’s the pattern that Trump has followed on every important debate. He can’t be trusted to be consistent and provide leadership because he’s only interested in trying to figure out how to jump in front of the winner. Or, more likely, to be standing where he can avoid direct responsibility while attacking or dismissing the scapegoat.

    But he may have to pay a price when (and yes, I mean when) he gives in to temptation and goes right back to the race baiting that his audiences count among their favorite parts of his act (and, yes, I do mean act).

    McConnell is not going to do that. It’s safer, and a lot easer to take the heat for a couple of weeks and leave the Senate adjourned. That way, he doesn’t have to worry about the NRA. And he doesn’t have to watch Trump make a fool of himself and demonstrate how untrustworthy and troublesome he is to the political class (yet, again).
     
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  2. Wild Horses

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    Yeah because a government that has drones that they could use to kill you at anytime is really scared that you have a gun.
     
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    Well regulated was what I was focusing on.
     
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    Yep better clutch your gun at the thought of government that could slaughter you even with an arsenal in your home.
     
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    Agreed

    Trumps whole campaign strategy is built around division and discord

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2019-08-06/donald-trump-gun-laws-el-paso-ohio-shootings/11385718
     
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    That’s such an obvious false equivenancy!!!!!
     
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    We have our hands full in Afghanistan with a bunch of savages with rifles and home made bombs.
     
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    No, because a significant number of Americans oppose your gun confiscation schemes. Ask Bill Clinton what happened when his party did gun control last. And it will never work, even when liberal CT passed an AWB hardly anyone turned them in.

    Personally, I lost all mine in a tragic boating accident, wink.
     
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    And it was another forum “debate politics”

    I have had run ins with some real whackos on this forum. One threatened to drive to my house and and shoot me. I told him he was welcome to try since I lived in Australia. He was dumb enough to try and drive from there to here lols!
     
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    No, its not. J
    You just don't like the obvious conclusion.
     
  11. Wild Horses

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    Yeah well last I checked we aren't in Afghanistan. Well actually it probably feels like it if you are a Mexican at a Walmart.
     
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    And do you WANT America to descend into that?
     
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    Yeah an environmental wacko might get you.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    So suggest changes for Afghanistan. We do not need those from you here in America.
     
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    And you are willing to let it happen.
     
  16. Wild Horses

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    We have a President that chuckles when his supporters say "shoot them!" when talking about Mexicans. Perhaps it is we that are the savages.
     
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    I"m saying if our government wanted to try tyranny, we can handle them.
     
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    This is so hilarious. Beat your chest some more. You wouldn't stand a chance.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Produce a youtube video. i do not accept your accusation at face value.
     
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    Really? And when and how will you do that?

    If this legislation passes will you walk down the street guns out?

    If you feel your country is being invaded would you go and do something about?

    What is the trigger and what is your plan to deal with it?
     
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    All that Trump did was read a speech about the killings (that was written for him) that he doesn't even understand.

    When Trump goes back to his OWN Words (and he isn't reading something that somebody wrote for him) he will be back to spreading his Divisive RACISM.
     
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    Perhaps Trump can travel to Toledo and help take care of the problem.
     

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