This is what has happened to the GOP

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  1. Pycckia

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    I don't think enforcing the law without mercy is hate. It is love for the American people that the law was designed to protect. I don't subscribe to trickle down theory; economic inequality has increased with increasing profits. This is unhealthy for the polity, I am sure you will agree. Illegal immigrants compete for jobs with the native born depressing their wages increasing economic inequality.

    The people coming here fleeing rapists and murderers have been inculcated in a violent culture and will reproduce it here not to mention that many illegal immigrants are the very rapists and murderers themselves.

    Your last statement is an accusation I deny. If you don't believe what I tell you about my state of mind there is no basis for debate and you will be doomed to wallow from your prejudices.
     
  2. Pycckia

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    I will have to study your article so I won't comment yet.

    Of course they are bringing their culture. They have no choice. You don't change your culture when you change your address. And as for wanting to be Americans, why do they wave the Mexican flag?
     
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    I'll take a wild guess and suggest you don't like holocaust deniers.
     
  4. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Culture is not inbred, not part of your physical makeup, we can change it, we can pick and choose from what behaviors we want to follow. We are INDIVIDUALS, not predetermined products of our environments. At least I'm not, are you?

    They wave Mexican flags to show they are not ashamed of being Mexicans even though they are Americans now. America is supposed to be the kind of nation where we let people do that , we let people bring the best of their culture and use it to enrich ours.
     
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  6. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Well I must be a better conservative than you for I subscribe to trickle down enough to say that what makes rich people rich will usually help most of us (I just don't think the government should help it along) .

    Enforcing the law without mercy is the very epitome of hate, Inspector Javert.

    Illegal immigrants compete, that is true, are we all such snowflakes now that we fear competition? Competition is the very life's blood of capitalism, without it the system is simply state enforced plutocracy.

    Again, your culture is not inbred, not part of your bones and sinew. There are many people born here who are quite as violent as people can possibly be, and American culture itself is not exactly known as gentle. Some of the people coming here are the violent ones, that is true, but generally the process should select out for them. Rapists and Murderers are relatively unchecked there, why should they come here?

    Deny it all you wish, I will go by your other statements here when I assess your state of mind, not your excuses for them.
     
  7. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    And if a Jamaican Father finds out his daughter is dating an American black, "...but..but.. he's a NEGRO" will be the first words out of his mouth. So what?

    The Japanese called themselves the "Yamato Race" in WWII. They don't do it NOW is the main thing.

    And HItler was going to kill all of them too, right along with the Blacks and the Chinese, he was just going to take a while longer getting around to it.

    In the movie "Little Big Man" the word for "Human Beings" is "Cheyenne" and in German the word for people is 'Deutschs" and that's the same as the word for German. The word for person in Goth is Goth and that word also means "Glorious" Visigoths doesn't mean "West Goths' as most people think but "Even More Glorious" (as Isaac Asimov once pointed out one problem Goths didn't apparently have was a lack of self-esteem)

    EVERYBODY takes pride in their heritage and it often manifests in people seeming to think they're better than everybody.

    It's where you have one race or the other saying that not only do they think they're superior but YOU"RE ****, and they have the right to rule, to be the MASTERS, and enslave and eventually kill everybody else that most people have a problem
     
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  8. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Nah, If you can't communicate clearly I can't be bothered to prize out your meaning. This is an internet discussion board not Joyce's Ullysses
     
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  9. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Does anyone?
     
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    Things are changing in Japan.

    Japanese Defense Forces are flying the the military rising sun flag again, the first time since 1945.

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    And Japan just reactivated Japanese naval marines. The last Imperial Japanese marines was back in 1945.

    Japan activates first marines since WW2 to bolster defenses against China
    https://ca.reuters.com/article/topNews/idCAKCN1HE069-OCATP

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    That is not true. Many if not most are Mexicans living in America. If I break into your house and claim a room, it doesn't make it my house.
     
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    You may well be a better conservative than I. But I deplore the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer The middle class is shrinking partly because some of them are getting rich but mostly because they are getting poorer.

    Hardly. Me poisoning your dog is the epitome of hate. You calling the cops on me is justice.

    It is not competition. It is supply and demand. Why are the poor getting poorer? Because the expanded supply of labor depresses wages.

    Culture is inbred in the synapses of your brain. Americans are appalled at the idea of eating dogs whereas the Chinese get hungry at the very idea. People from different cultures do think differently if for no other reason than their languages can and do express different ideas. Moreover, cultures get encoded in our genes. It is inevitable given evolution. People evolve to be more in tune with their culture. Violent cultures beget genetically violent people.

    See, you don't want to understand conservatives. You pay no attention to what they say if it conflicts with your biases.[/quote]
     
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    A + B = 77.35%
    A = 62.06%

    B = (A + B) - A
    B = (77.35%) - 62.06%
    B = 15.29%

    A + B + A = 139.41%
    Two minorities?
    Non-Hispanic whites, 62.06% of the population would not be a minority, would it?
    Hispanic whites, included in the 77.35% figure, would result in their being 15.29% of the white population, and a minority of the white population.

    And from the figures provided we could then say the Non-white population, combining distinguishing variations, would be 100% - 77.35% or 22.65% of the total population.

    Now, do you see where you made your mistake?

    ?
     
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    And that has not

    The way the law is written where I live it qutie legal for you to throw poisoned beef my yard and I have not legal redress whatsoever as the dog is not that valuable
    OIC Okay

    ? Fine, great with me.. If you don't see where it's racist to say that no votes from minorities should count I have no further argument that could convince you.
     
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    And that has not

    The way the law is written where I live it qutie legal for you to throw poisoned beef my yard and I have not legal redress whatsoever as the dog is not that valuable

    OIC Okay

    ? Fine, great with me.. If you don't see where it's racist to say that no votes from minorities should count I have no further argument that could convince you.[/QUOTE]
    Your post didn't quote anyone having said such.
     
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    Really? In my state poisoning a dog is aggravated cruelty to animals, a third degree felony which gets you up to seven years in prison.

    Where do you live? Saudi Arabia?
     
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    They will succumb. Every party needs to be viable as a first priority, which restricts their choices. If one side goes far left or right it puts the pressure on the other side. They're running against an opponent offering utopia, they can only hock the status quo.

    But when polarisation reaches fever pitch there must be conflict. Either there is conflict or one side backs down. Sometimes that's unacceptable for both sides.

    The mainstream isn't there, most people don't really care about politics all that much. The winner gets 62 million of the 330 million. If the polarisation reaches the mainstream it will probably result in some sort of extra-judicial takeover. When nobody cares what the rules are you rewrite them.
     
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    No, Maryland in the USA. A trespassing hunter left poisoned meat for my animals (or even children) and admitted it to the arresting officer, they didn't do **** to him.
     
  19. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    I don't think so. True tribalism as is being described here is so very much against American ideals and practices that it has never really caught on. This is one of the reasons I am so against Trumpism and White Nationalism, they go against the very grain of American society, they defy the real reason we are even here. We ARE a refuge, a dumping ground for every person nobody else wants. We are indeed the "wretched refuse" and we are PROUD of it. That is our place in the world of nations and it is a unique and privileged position that has made us first among them. White Nationalism would make us just another ethnically/racially based commonwealth and the world already has too many of them
     
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    Your post didn't quote anyone having said such.[/QUOTE]

    Look at Apacherat's last two posts.
     
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    Look at Apacherat's last two posts.[/QUOTE]
    There they are, where are the words you're claiming "no votes from minorities should count"?
     
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    Sorry, more posts than I thought on this

    Posts 89 and 99

    He says the majority race should rule and then goes on to state that the majority of whites voted for Trump and that justifies his being President. Mind, Trump is President because he got more electoral votes but Apacherat seems to imply what I just said besides.
     
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    Regardless of how you interpret what Apacherat posted, I don't feel a need to call it racist. But I do agree that Trump is President because he got more electoral votes, and that's what counts.
     
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    Duke did not have success running as a Democrat. He did have success when running as a Republican.
     
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    Should you not wait for trump to do to those people you mentioned, as hitler did to the jews before you start stating such things? I mean, it would not only be the fair thing to do, but the sane thing as well.

    And that is the trouble with trump hatred and party partisanship. It turns people into something they accuse trump of being.
     

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