You're not a man unless you're a union man. Anyone who owns a man's work owns the man; unions prevent wage slavery. Working-class people are men, while spoiled Chickenhawks who have their Daddies get them out of fighting are gutless pukes. If we had put someone with a union man's attitude in charge of the War on Terror, we would have had total victory 40 years ago (seizure of the Muslim oilfields, which we believed in, but the appeasers would have been outraged by). You put Greedhead and Heirhead draftdodgers in charge of any war, it will drag on and on. 50,000 real Americans paid for allowing Chickenhawks to go unpunished, now 300 million Americans, not mentioning the rest of the Free World, have to suffer for putting proven traitors in charge of this World War.
I am a conservative and your stating that I hate the members of that union as much as I hate the two terrorists who killed and maimed all those innocent makes it appear as though you must have some sort of developmental disability.
Even better than mandatory unions (just like we now have mandatory titles of ownership), only allow employees to own stock. If Conservative con men weren't such hypocrites that would fit in with what they pretend is their ideology: you can't be motivated unless what you produce is yours. Profit is a tax on the worker unless he gets it back as a dividend.
A liberal posting like a liberal. Nothing confounding to me here. Oh well....and I really wanted to be confounded today.
Just like the Connies always say about people who think they are underpaid, nobody forces scabs to join a union. They can always get off our territory and go work somewhere else if they don't want to join our union. It is a class war, and non-joiners are deserters neglecting their duty to their fellow workers. Connies know that, so they make up this fantasy about the individualist right to be a traitor. What else would you expect from Chickenhawks?
So if a company with a successful product and say 50 employees needed a hundred million dollars to expand they would have to try to either secure it from their 50 employees by selling them stock and/or borrow it? If they borrowed it, would the employees be the only ones who could loan the money? Are you aware of anywhere in the world that has implemented what you have proposed?
Soooooooo...you can't have socioeconomic differences and stand unified against Islamic terrorism on American soil? I seem to remember a time not all that long ago when people of all classes, creeds, and ideological stripes came together.....briefly.....until "some" remembered it was far more politically beneficial to their party to attack, blame and divide Americans.... Stupidest thread this month. Congrats, prog.
lol... I am getting a lot of that lately. - - - Updated - - - Repeated, just because all the Liberals ignored it the first time.... You read too much DailyKos, Media Matters, and Think Progress. I am 100% alright with the existence of PRIVATE UNIONS... but like the great Liberal President FD Roosevelt, I am 100% against PUBLIC UNIONS. Please learn the difference and educate yourself.
I hate unions with every fiber of my being? Damn, when did this happen? Either you can see deeper into my psyche then even I can, or you're just full of baseless speculative accusatory flamebait. I wonder which one it could be.
No, wrong. Unions can't possibly do anything right that's involved with the economy or with the job aspect of our American system. Unions have been and still are a drain on the government and on the taxpayers in general. Unionists are overpaid robots/drones who aren't given a chance to create, to motivate, to set work related goals, to invent, to compete in a market place of ideas and or with the development of a more advanced product. But it is refreshing that a leftist outfit finally came around and posted the word 'cowards' aimed at one of our enemies--rather than to always be known as the doves, anti war, pacifist and anti American misfits that they've always been, and yes....still are.
Wow, lotta venom and outlandish generalization there LH. But you finally got around to an underhanded complement of some sort. Good job i say!
Conformists always make up paranoiac accusations against change. As I stated, the company doesn't sell stock to anybody; it is already totally owned by the employees, who are the company. The "company" is not a separate entity. As long as it remains so under the present Serf and Turf system, the employee-serfs will be apathetic, alienated, and demoralized. What is their motivation to increase profits? They need a direct motivation, not something like "Maybe we'll get a raise. Maybe if we don't expand, the company will go broke in five years and we'll lose our jobs." Do the Wall Street stockholders have a different situation? The employees can vote on whether to borrow from banks, bonds, or selling preferred stock. They can also finance through savings or voluntary wage cuts. Since the decision will be made by the people working there instead of Greedhead get-rich-quick fast-buck dreamers in the front office or Board of Directors, it will be the most knowledge-based decision. The situation now is that the founder acts like he's the only one working there and sell his company in an IPO. When he does that, he also sells his employees as slaves to the new owners. There is no reason to have entrepreneurs as long as there are other employees. Self-ownership has been achieved by Mondragon in Spain and in dozens of places in Argentina, where the owner quit and the employees ran things without him. But the whole world is under the spell of Follow the Leader. We can have either self-government and self-ownership, or Capitalist serfdom.
Never let it be said that the Libhater doesn't give credit when credit is due. BTW, this is the first time I've ever seen or read about a leftist organization doing something that was 'RIGHT', and or something that gives credit, praise or the backing of the good ole U.S. of A., nonetheless, I'm not willing to go out on a limb by calling anyone or anything associated with a leftist ideology as being the least bit patriotic.
Yeah, employees pressuring employers to follow the law, and to negotiate for wages as a group, what could be more AWFUL for America? And those fat cats with degrees $35k per year Kansas teachers are the PERFECT example of the horrible abuses unions cause! The absurd idea that union members are "anti-war", "pacifists", "doves" or whatever is showing a profound ignorance of the people who are members of unions. Oh, yeah, I guess unions often DO ensure minorities get treated the same as white employees in pay and dismissals, so I guess for people who love Stormfront, unions ARE pretty "evil". Which is another good reason why there should be more unions.
Lol, honest to God Libhater ... It's the only example of any left of center organization doing something right .. like EVER? Okay, wow. I would never question the patriotism of ANY RW organization or suggest that they'd never ever done anything right. Mainly because i don't feel that way!
Well, the rightist weirdoes are all gun-nutters, sneaking around with the means to murder, hidden if possible. Why should a union be allowed to call them 'cowards' when their masters control everything, just because they are?
I try and try (and try) to understand the right's hatred for unions and generalizations about their members FD. Hope springs eternal.
Hmm. I'm a rightist, I'm definitely weird, and gun issues aren't really on my radar, so I guess the blanket statement with the word "all" can't be correct. I wonder how many other fallacies can be found in this post? Perhaps the post itself IS a fallacy?
Perhaps you aren't a PROPER rightist weirdo? Senator McCarthy would have had you out of work and in jail quite soon, I expect. Just be glad you're allowed to pretend!
I'm guessing you to be correct. After all, nobody hates unions any more than the Filthy Koch Brothers and nobody loves the Filthy Koch Brothers more than Rightists.
Ted Cruz and Allen West (being proper McCarthyites) would do likewise. Tis questionable whether ANY moderate Republican would pass the "purity test".
