Time For A Jeb Bush Thread!

Is there a clean, honest way to become filthy rich? I think not.

 

You go Jeb! Mimic the party line...that same sex marriage should be left to the states. That's the new softer side of bigotry that you and most others have adopted because you can no longer get away with the harsh hateful rhetoric. At the same time, you know damned well that most states that have marriage equality now, would not have if the federal courts had not stepped in.

I know that you establishment Republicans would rather this issue just go away, but for one thing, your tea party nemesis wont let it. For that matter, neither will the Democrats, because we have the support of the majority of the country We are on the right side of history.

And I do believe that this guy has got it wrong as well. I do not believe that Clinton is opposed to Federal intervention and I cannot find any evidence that she said " leave it to the states" in the last couple of years:

 

Just more Bush(*)(*)(*)(*)

 

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Anyone interested in running for President of the United Sates can assess the historical probability of his succeeding easily by checking first whether he fits the profile that had invariably pertained for over two centuries: White Guy.

Another obvious time-honoured advantage was their always having had a northern European moniker, preferably Anglo-Saxon.

Even a nine-year-stale experience in elective office could be viewed as a positive on the skimpy resumé, to be sure, but next to race and gender, everything could be in a name.

We shall have another exception to one of the time-honoured precedents if the GOP should decide to nominate

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Is he begging Palin to run with him?

 

Romney could be a formidable candidate if he got himself a decent running mate.

 

The GOP elite and their corporate fat cats seem to be offering either Willard "Extra Statrch" Romney or Jebby "Just call me 'Jeb'!" Bush, both of whom had actually held political office in the distant past.

The problem is that so many Republicans and most of the electorate think either choice stinks.

The right wing Washington Times reports:

There is still room for a serious challenge for the nomination, but not from hysterical TP or evangetollah nut jobs - although they'll both need to be herded into the voting booths.

I expect Scott Walker to exploit the failure of the usual suspects to get the unwashed masses wee wee'd up, and try to give pandering to Angry White Guys one last hurrah before demographics consigns them to the deep. And if he can get the squawk radio entertainers behind him, the fat cats will be eager to bankroll the notoriously anti-labour rabel-rouser. The wealth disparity has become such a wide chasm that there is now a sizable myopic mob that cannot even see across to the other side that will be issuing them their marching orders for Walker.

It'll be fun.

 

Agreed... he needs to call Sarah!

 

With Romney gone and Christy on the ropes after a disastrous trip to the UK, they may have nothing left but the overt crazies

 

I do NOT like Jeb. Us conservatives would much rather see a number of other candidates. Jeb is a phony, especially on immigration.

Legal and illegal immigration is overwhelming our country, and dopes like Jeb keep trying to fool us with phony solutions. We may be a nation of immigrants but we're not a nation of a never ending pipeline of immigrants coming in that don't want to assimilate into our culture. And thats whats going on right now. And it's killing us economically.

 

You have a problem then.

A "bunch" of "pure conservative" candidates?....means the "pure conservative" vote is SPLIT between 3-4 guys (Cruz, Rand, etc.) and then the "Establishment" vote is UNIFIED behind Jeb.

Second problem is, the "Hero of the Hour", Scott Walker?....is just as "pro-amnesty" as Jeb is, but nobody has really paid much attention to that or is dismissing it since he "really showed those Democrats and unions up in Wisconsin".

So the presumptive front-runner (Jeb) and the guy mostly likely to challenge him (Walker)....BOTH are going to be, as you said, "phony on immigration."

 

Walker is not pro-amnesty as much as Bush is. Walker is stronger regarding sealing the border, and more moderate otherwise.

 

Doesn't matter, does it, birddog? You've already admitted NO MATTER WHO the 2016 Republican Nominee for President is....

you're going to vote for him.

And that would include Jeb, wouldn't it? (Yes, I'll save your answer....just in case. )



BTW, Mark "The Great One" Levin....disagrees with your assessment of Walker-

[video=youtube;4O_YUDw7u-4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4O_YUDw7u-4[/video]

 

Of course I will vote for the R nominee! I'm not stupid! I do prefer Walker at this point.

 

Then, your criticism of Bush is irrelevant. He could call for open borders and free limo rides from Guatemala to Houston, Texas and then a free citizenship certificate and a catered lunch....

and he'd still get your vote in November 2016.

The GOP OWNS your vote....and can easily ignore you.

 

Not true, most voters like me influence others. Like Reagan said, it's better to get part of the pie than no pie at all!

 

Oh, the old "If we get in Jeb, we can pressure him to be more conservative...we can't pressure Hillary" Argument?

One problem with that.....since Jeb got your vote, ignoring or even going against your positions on certain issues.....and you would STILL vote for him for re-election in 2020, if he KEPT ignoring you or going against your positions....

what "pressure" or "influence"....would you possible have?

Put it this way, BD....say your "vote" is a "weapon"....to "threaten" a politician to vote a certain way or as President to implement or promote certain policies.

Now, you are holding a pillow for that weapon...and even if the politician goes against you....you WON'T hit him with that pillow. Then he gets into office and you say "If you don't implement the policies that I want...I'll hit you with my pillow"....and he says "Really? You will? Because you didn't last time?"....and you say "Uh...no...not really. I still hate the Other Guys more. I won't hit you.".....

and he laughs at you and your "threat".

It's not that you're "bringing a knife to a gunfight", Birddog....it's that you're not even bringing the knife....or making a fist.....in fact, if the other guy drops his gun....you'll pick it up and hand it back to him.

You have openly said that you WILL vote Republican regardless of what that Republican Nominee says or proposes.....no matter what......and we both know you'd vote to re-elect him next time...

why would he "fear" you...or even respect you?

 

You are obviously a slow learner. I can't help you no matter what you say.

 

bd, you know what I said is true....and it angers you. But the only reason it's true is...you are such an utter GOP partisan, a person that a Republican Nominee can absolutely, even totally "sell out"....and you'll still loyally vote for him.

If a Democrat got nominated who promised to eliminate Social Security....I'd vote Green...or even Republican.

But if a Republican got nominated who ran on European universal health care...or reinstating the Fairness Doctrine and throwing Rush Limbaugh off the air.....you'd still vote for him.

But don't feel alone...there are MANY like you....it's what the RNC counts on when the Presidential Nominee "moves Center" after locking up the Nomination. It's what Scott Walker...or Jeb Bush will count on.

That most Republican voters are like you.....totally and completely ignorable.

 

I don't often get angry. Some of your points are well taken, but your mantra is getting old. Please try not to talk down to your betters.

 

Wrong.

Jeb Bush just did a dynasty-ending mega-dump.

In this era of widespread concerns over both private and national cyber-security, this irresponsible action destroys all serious political ambitions.

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Right Jeb. Of course you don't want to talk about it. Especially Iraq. But, you have heard that those who ignore the past are destined to repeat it, haven't you?

 

Jeb is a criminal. Just like his brother (and probably his father and grandfather too).

 

He can refuse to talks about Brother Dub if he thinks that'll let him escape his past, but Jabba was a founding member of the PNAC, and his fingerprints are all over their schemes for global military domination that fizzled with the disastrous Iraq fiasco.

 

Jeb Bush's signature on the founding documents of the Project for a New American Century will defeat any effort by him to separate his putative presidential candidacy from his family's historical support of overt Nazi and fascist policies, including the revelations of torture detailed in the Senate's report of this week.

PNAC developed and sold the blueprint for the new Anglo-American imperialism which has turned the United States internally into a garrison police-state and an imperial force internationally deployed against any nation deemed unfriendly to British or American financial interests. Its primary target was China, which it describes as the potential great power competitor of the United States, although it is most famous for selling the war in Iraq. https://larouchepac.com/20141213-8