Time to get out of Iraq as well as Syria?

I think we should get out of Iraq, but i believe when we do iran will invade..
I think we should have a huge presence in the gulf and respond with air power to any Iranian aggression.

 

There's always been terrorist attacks in Iraq, they never stopped. Dozens of people have been murdered in Baghdad. The United Nations Assistance Mission in Iraq (UNAMI) publishes monthly figures for civilian casualties from terrorist attacks. Deaths were running at around 80 to 90 people a month last year and most if not all of those would have been caused by ISIS. It was a huge mistake for the US to invade Iraq and Iraq doesn't want the US presence there. We should have been out years ago.

 

The man murdered was not a businessman. He was described as an 'American civilian contractor', yet no news source has reported on this man's identity. I believe he was selling US military arms. His murder provoked quite a response from the Trump administration.

 

That will explain why the people of Iraq are apparently becoming united against the US for killing the people who were getting rid of ISIS.

 

We became invaders under Bush, Cheney and Obama, not to mention Vietnam and Korea. Invaders 'R US. Trump is essentially getting the most out of The Unitary Executive, and the US Congress enabled that with the AUMF

None of the "esteemed patriots" in Congress are talking about repealing that noxious fraud. Esteemed Traitors would be a better description.

 

I'm possibly one of the oldest members here and I remember the fall of Saigon in 1975. It marked the end of the war in Vietnam (finally) and the reunification of Vietnam commenced under communism. The US shouldn't have been there just as the US should have never been in Iraq. Evacuation of Saigon was total mayhem with people pushing and shoving each other on rooftops trying to get in one of the evacuation helicopters before the Vietcong marched in to kill them all. The US needs to get out of Iraq entirely, they don't want us there and we have no right to remain there.

 

May actually be time to carve an independent Kurdistan out of Iraq.
We have bases in the Kurdish zone and the Kurds like us.

 

The fall of Saigon was not a reunification, it was a successful conquering invasion.

 

they wont invade, but influencing Iraq or Iraq become its puppet could likely to happen.

 

after the turkey incident, not sure they will.

 

Yes the North Vietnamese conquered. We abandoned our attempt to repel communism, once the US left, the North and South Vietnam reunited under COMMUNISM. US advisors and servicemen flee for their lives in the video

 

Congress "throws a fit," not your imaginary "deep state."

 

no, the north Vietnamese conquered the south..
congress abandoned South Vietnam..

Now we can argue about everything that happened before that, especially concerning American involvement but this was NOT like the Berlin wall coming down and Germany reuniting, this was a communist north Vietnamese conquest. of a sovereign nation

 

What about South Korea?

 

If the Iraqi Parliament is telling us to leave, what choice do we have?

 

In my mind, a "contractor" is a businessman or a government worker. If he was there to sell arms, then he was part of the problem, & certainly not worth risking a war with Iran over.

 

Every single American is worth risking a war over.

If any of us aren't, then none of us are.

 

I share most of your sentiments here. Looking back on American foreign policy in the Middle East over the past ten decades, the U.S. has been ill informed, arrogant, cocky, & far too militant. America has made one bad decision after another there, & affected & afflicted millions of individual lives in the process, & seldom, if ever, honoring American ideals that benefit human rights. After $billions in expenditures, tens of thousands in lost lives, & proof of American ineptitude in relating to, or respecting the lives or ideals of the people who live there, America can claim nothing beyond utter failure in making that region a better place for those who live there. With increased energy resources being developed in America itself, there's ever decreasing reasons for keeping a military presence in the Middle East. We've made ourselves unwelcome there, & there's no need or reason for us to keep our military there any longer. If we have a presence there, let it be on a business or social or educational basis rather than a militant one.

 

If we responded militarily to every American murdered in a foreign country, we'd be in a state of perpetual war. Yes, there are times, circumstances, &/or individuals worthy of a militant response. But that's not a viable answer for everyone, & I don't see it as a valid response by Trump for this one.

 

I mostly agree.

 

The DP House and the DP Deep State throw a fit - not "Congress"

 

We should respond to every attack on our embassies. We should arrest or kill every terrorist enemy on our terrorist list ASAP.

 

It was apparently a "non-binding" resolution. So, we have a choice, but it certainly looks like a perfect opportunity to disengage.

 

Our base in SK is just there as a human sacrifice to the gods of war. South Koreans are very anti-American.

 

You never know until you try. At this point Turkey/Erdogan might prefer to have a Kurdish state to negotiate with and smack around if provoked.