Time to stop this slavery excuse and let the past go.....

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  1. unkotare

    unkotare Well-Known Member

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    The British were looking out for their own interests, not the protection of the American colonists. The British went broke because they were small and stupid and spread themselves out too thin in pissing off everyone in the world. They turned their pockets inside out and then thought it would be a great idea to squeeze the Americans to make up for their malfeasance, but didn't figure on the Bostonians telling them where they could stick it.

    And the French refused to raise a finger until we proved that we could win it without them at the Battle of Saratoga.
     
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    Hahaha bullshit....

    If they never stepped in to help out half of america would be speaking French.


    Mate it was somthing like 99% of the Americans gun powder came from the French. So they played a huge part!!!

    Without them they would be fighting the might of the british army with rocks and spears haha.
     
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    That's how they were looking out for their own interests. They didn't want to 'lose' to the French. The life or death of any particular American colonist (or anyone else in the world) meant nothing to them.
     
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    Yes but its also looking out for the british colonists just as much if not more. They had the french knocking at their door, putting up forts all over the place.

    The French were a threat to all the british colonists in American. They were just as much of an enemy to britain as they were the british colonies.
     
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    The threat to the Americans came from the Indians more than the French. The French hated the British, the Indians (some of them) hated the Americans.
     
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    The clue is in BRITISH COLONISTS. The french hated you, they were a threat.

    They only came to your aid because they saw you kicking up a fuss and rebelling. It was a way to split up and give a dig to the british.

    Don't know why you see the british clearing out the enemy and taking the whole of America a bad thing.
     
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    They never did such a thing.
     
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    Yes I agree that the truth and the facts did cut you, deep, and left your Conscience on life support which Racism cannot save it from.
     
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    They did exactly that...
     
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    It didn't even free slaves in Southern states as it obviously had no force of law and excluded rebel territory occupied by Union forces. Not a single slave was freed by the EP and the 13th was cleverly disguised as an anti-slavery law while actually enshrining the institution in the Constitution! The war wasn't about keeping/freeing the slaves, 1/3 of the Union was slaveholding and Lincoln was a admitted WS.
     
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    They most certainly did not. You can't make up your own facts.
     
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    You're a little confused.
     
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    Does it take a rocket scientist, to comprehend, that you lust for our Powerful White-Racism so much to whereas you claim I am not White? All because my posts show hatred toward our Powerful White-Racism. tsk tsk

    As a matter of fact according to your fatuous, logic, I guess Ann Coulter is not White. For saying America owes a debt to Black citizens for the current legacy of Slavery which subjugates them.

    As according to your fatuous, logic, I guess the great homosexual and former U.S. Congressman Barney Frank, is also not White. For saying all Black Americans should get together, and file a class action racial-discrimination lawsuit, against the United States of AmeriKKKa.

    As according to your fatuous, logic, I guess Prof. Jenny Hoshschilds is also not White. For conducting Harvard Univ studies which illuminate how bitterly, racist our nation is toward its dark-skinned Black citizens vs all other USA citizens.

    As according to your fatuous, logic, I guess filmmaker Michael Moore is also not White. For saying, when it comes to meritous-creativity in America, "Black people create it, then White people co-opt it."

    And of course as according to your fatuous, logic, the intrepid Prof. Robert Jensen is also not White. For saying ... well ... you know. :)
     
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    by Robert Jensen

    Here's what white privilege sounds like:

    I am sitting in my University of Texas office, talking to a very bright and very conservative white student about affirmative action in college admissions, which he opposes and I support.

    The student says he wants a level playing field with no unearned advantages for anyone. I ask him whether he thinks that in the United States being white has advantages. Have either of us, I ask, ever benefited from being white in a world run mostly by white people? Yes, he concedes, there is something real and tangible we could call white privilege.

    So, if we live in a world of white privilege--unearned white privilege--how does that affect your notion of a level playing field? I ask.

    He paused for a moment and said, "That really doesn't matter."

    That statement, I suggested to him, reveals the ultimate white privilege: the privilege to acknowledge you have unearned privilege but ignore what it means.


    That exchange led me to rethink the way I talk about race and racism with students. It drove home to me the importance of confronting the dirty secret that we white people carry around with us everyday: In a world of white privilege, some of what we have is unearned. I think much of both the fear and anger that comes up around discussions of affirmative action has its roots in that secret. So these days, my goal is to talk openly and honestly about white supremacy and white privilege.

    White privilege, like any social phenomenon, is complex. In a white supremacist culture, all white people have privilege, whether or not they are overtly racist themselves. There are general patterns, but such privilege plays out differently depending on context and other aspects of one's identity (in my case, being male gives me other kinds of privilege). Rather than try to tell others how white privilege has played out in their lives, I talk about how it has affected me.

    I am as white as white gets in this country. I am of northern European heritage and I was raised in North Dakota, one of the whitest states in the country. I grew up in a virtually all-white world surrounded by racism, both personal and institutional. Because I didn't live near a reservation, I didn't even have exposure to the state's only numerically significant non-white population, American Indians.

    I have struggled to resist that racist training and the ongoing racism of my culture. I like to think I have changed, even though I routinely trip over the lingering effects of that internalized racism and the institutional racism around me. But no matter how much I "fix" myself, one thing never changes--I walk through the world with white privilege.

    What does that mean? Perhaps most importantly, when I seek admission to a university, apply for a job, or hunt for an apartment, I don't look threatening. Almost all of the people evaluating me for those things look like me--they are white. They see in me a reflection of themselves, and in a racist world that is an advantage. I smile. I am white. I am one of them. I am not dangerous. Even when I voice critical opinions, I am cut some slack. After all, I'm white.

    My flaws also are more easily forgiven because I am white. Some complain that affirmative action has meant the university is saddled with mediocre minority professors. I have no doubt there are minority faculty who are mediocre, though I don't know very many. As Henry Louis Gates Jr. once pointed out, if affirmative action policies were in place for the next hundred years, it's possible that at the end of that time the university could have as many mediocre minority professors as it has mediocre white professors. That isn't meant as an insult to anyone, but is a simple observation that white privilege has meant that scores of second-rate white professors have slid through the system because their flaws were overlooked out of solidarity based on race, as well as on gender, class and ideology.

    Some people resist the assertions that the United States is still a bitterly racist society and that the racism has real effects on real people. But white folks have long cut other white folks a break. I know, because I am one of them...

    But, all that said, I know I did not get where I am by merit alone. I benefited from, among other things, white privilege. That doesn't mean that I don't deserve my job, or that if I weren't white I would never have gotten the job. It means simply that all through my life, I have soaked up benefits for being white.

    I grew up in fertile farm country taken by force from non-white indigenous people. I was educated in a well-funded, virtually all-white public school system in which I learned that white people like me made this country great. There I also was taught a variety of skills, including how to take standardized tests written by and for white people.

    All my life I have been hired for jobs by white people. I was accepted for graduate school by white people. And I was hired for a teaching position at the predominantly white University of Texas, which had a white president, in a college headed by a white dean and in a department with a white chairman that at the time had one non-white tenured professor...

    Like anyone, I have overcome certain hardships in my life. I have worked hard to get where I am, and I work hard to stay there. But to feel good about myself and my work, I do not have to believe that "merit," as defined by white people in a white country, alone got me here. I can acknowledge that in addition to all that hard work, I got a significant boost from white privilege, which continues to protect me every day of my life from certain hardships.

    At one time in my life, I would not have been able to say that, because I needed to believe that my success in life was due solely to my individual talent and effort. I saw myself as the heroic American, the rugged individualist. I was so deeply seduced by the culture's mythology that I couldn't see the fear that was binding me to those myths. Like all white Americans, I was living with the fear that maybe I didn't really deserve my success, that maybe luck and privilege had more to do with it than brains and hard work. I was afraid I wasn't heroic or rugged, that I wasn't special...

    White privilege is not something I get to decide whether or not I want to keep. Every time I walk into a store at the same time as a black man and the security guard follows him and leaves me alone to shop, I am benefiting from white privilege. There is not space here to list all the ways in which white privilege plays out in our daily lives, but it is clear that I will carry this privilege with me until the day white supremacy is erased from this society...
     
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    WTF..

    Just make sh0t up as you go along/


    Just make up more sh0t.
    I never even mentioned those people.
    I mentioned Jensen, but never said he was not white.
     
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    So, what social media sites do these people get on and claim they are white 5 times a day, and trash white people with every post.



    As much as you want to think so, you didn't invent this.
    People get on chat sites and misrepresent their race, all the time
    just so they can trash a race and not be accused of being racist.
     
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    Privilege doesn't enjoy race or color. Just privilege. Anyone can enjoy privilege. Everyone can be subjugated by it. Your agony is misplaced.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Yes, yes you are.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What did you steal; when did you steal it, and other than idle chat, what did you return and when did the victims get it back?
     
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    its not just on the intenet either, whole tribes pretend to be something they are not
     
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    There are a few others I suspect of religious and racial misrepresentation, but oh well.
     
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    unfortunately christianity and in particular, catholics, are the worst.
     
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    Catholics, Of the common religions, I would probably agree with as being the worst misinterpreted.
     
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    they misrepresent the holy scriptures the most out of all religions. the italian renaissance was the biggest scam in history and is the reason the protestant faith arose who went to war with catholics.
     
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    what's interesting is that the Catholics had to lie about the religion, and what God wants, to produce the mayhem it did.

    The Muslims had to tell the truth about their religion and what Allah wants, to produce the mayhem it did.
     

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