To the Black Americans

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by stan1990, Aug 25, 2020.

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Do you agree with the idea of slavery reparation?

Poll closed Sep 24, 2020.
  1. Yes

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  2. No

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  1. Josephwalker

    Josephwalker Banned

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    Well yeah, that's just fact.
     
  2. RodB

    RodB Well-Known Member Donor

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    Hence the dichotomy of the inane quagmire.
     
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    I've documented my family history and my ancestors came here from Holland as indentured servants. They were poor even when part of the family came to Texas and part of the family went on to California. None of them ever owned slaves. What do I get?
    Oh.... nothing? Is that because I'm white?

    And, since nobody in our known history owned slaves, why should I pay?
     
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    Mr.Incognito Well-Known Member

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    No, they borrow it from China !!!
     
  5. Sirius Black

    Sirius Black Well-Known Member

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    Huh?
     
  6. stan1990

    stan1990 Active Member

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    Exactly
    You are right
     
  7. stan1990

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    You are right
     
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    stan1990 Active Member

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    Good point
     
  9. gabmux

    gabmux Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Here’s a joke: What’s the difference between a Klan rally and a Republican Convention?
    Answer: The dress code.
    Here’s another one: How white is the Republican Party?
    83 percent of the registered voters who identify as Republican are non-Hispanic whites. The Republican Party is whiter than Tilda Swinton riding a polar bear in a snowstorm to a Taylor Swift concert.

    Seriously... didn't those southern Democrats you're accusing of everything become part of the GOP?
     
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    kriman Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Most blacks choose to be democrats. When that is taken into consideration, the proportion of the population which identifies as republican matches the population. Other races tend to be republican or democrat fairly evenly.
     
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    Tee hee. Good jokes however usually have some semblance of truth. The truth is that Democrats formed the KKK and supported it for 100 years and beyond. The Democrat Senate floor and majority leader of many years in the 70s and 80s was a former grand kleagle of the KKK for many years. I know of no Republican leaders that supports or condones the klan. I know of many Democrat leaders who did up until the 1970s into the 80s, including most of the Senate that filibustered against LBJ's civil rights act.


    When did white become a race that it is OK to disparage and discriminate against? Don't answer; it's a rhetorical question. White became a derogatory term when the losing Democrats needed more scapegoats and name calling to vent their frustration, with any veracity not necessary in the least.
     
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    Okay...but you gave no response to this part.....
    "Seriously... didn't those southern Democrats you're accusing of everything become part of the GOP?"
    I recall a prof once saying something about those southern Dems switching to GOP sometime after civil war.
    There does seem to be some online references to that idea.
     
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    In the 60s, long after the civil war, southern Republicans began beating the pants off southern Democrats in the elections. How many of those politicians switched parties is unknown and irrelevant. Democrats owned the south and the KKK up until the mid 20th century.
     
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    here is something....

    PolitiFact: "Many southern whites during the 1860s and 1870s were, in fact, Democrats, and some joined the Ku Klux Klan. But there's no evidence that the group was founded by the Democratic Party. ... 'The men who started the Klan were southerners and almost certainly voted Democrat, but that's a far cry from the claim that the party set up the organization,' [Princeton historian Kevin Kruse] said."

    Perhaps blaming all the Dems for problems concerning Blacks...
    is a bit like calling all of the GOP Trump supporters.
     
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    PolitiFact is wrong, well, actually nefariously deceptive. How is a bunch of Democrats getting together to build the KKK different from the Democrat party?? Did the bunch not have any Democrat party leaders? You can bet your bippy they did. That is really a very close cry.

    I don't blame all Democrats for the "black problem" or slavery in the least, far from it. But this is about reparations and who should pay. IMO the odds on the most likely, while not perfect but more logical than any other, is today's Democrat party. They best represent the faction that strongly supported slavery and post slavery segregation for over 100 years.

    There are many Republican RINOs that are never Trumpers and bordering on Trump haters. Usually they are members, along side most Democrats, of the inside the beltway Establishment fraternity. When Trump promised to drain the swamp they knew they were targets.
     
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    A history lesson from 160 years ago isn't going to win or lose this election. In fact I think that the repeated calls about Lincoln freed the slaves and democrats ruled the South shows how weak the Republican party is on issues of race. Perhaps the Republican party would do better if they were willing to address today's issues.
     
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    This isn't at all what this thread is about.
     
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    What you mentioned are historical facts. And why Obama and Biden didn't address these issues for eight years? Biden was a careered senator, what he did to address these problems?
     
  19. Sirius Black

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    What I mentioned was that telling people what you did for them a century and a half ago and them calling them names, ignoring their complaints, and infering they are not bright enough to make up their minds correctly is not an effective way to gain their votes. If the Democrats are as bad as you infer I think the Republicans have missed an opportunity.
     

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