Too fat to fight: Pentagon grapples with obesity epidemic

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Should taxpayers have a voice in what public schools feed students?

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  1. Market Junkie

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    It's like a vicious cycle now.

    These kids see these disgustingly obese adult slobs all over the place these days … and many of them think it's normal to look that way.


    Murica…………………………………..
     
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    With a fat disgusting pig waddling around the White House, what do you expect?
     
  3. Max Rockatansky

    Max Rockatansky Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Pigs are fat. Why? They are given plenty of slop; the waste products left over by humans after they feast. Our cattle and hogs are fattened up very well so when they are slaughtered, the fine cuts of meat are sold to those who can afford it. The left over bits of fat and less desirable meat "byproducts" (you've heard that word before, eh? :) ) are boiled down, repackaged and sold for a much lesser price...and which a much higher calorie count. So, why our nation certainly has luxuries, to say the poor are living in luxury because they are fat is to misunderstand the problem.

    BTW, despite all the panicking and screaming by the Left about gun violence, murder doesn't even make the list of the top ten. The top two, by a very large margin are heart disease and cancer. Anyone with an IQ over 100 shouldn't need to have a picture drawn for them to understand why.

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/leading-causes-of-death.htm
    • Heart disease: 635,260
    • Cancer: 598,038
    • Accidents (unintentional injuries): 161,374
    • Chronic lower respiratory diseases: 154,596
    • Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases): 142,142
    • Alzheimer’s disease: 116,103
    • Diabetes: 80,058
    • Influenza and pneumonia: 51,537
    • Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis: 50,046
    • Intentional self-harm (suicide): 44,965
     
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    Your poverty excuse is a shity one. You don't need to go to a gym to workout. Further you don't need to workout to lose weight you need to consume fewer calories fewer calories is cheaper than more calories.

    It's that simple
     
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    If you're asking why the US has it's Naval forces in the ME, specifically the Straight of Hormuz, it's to protecting the shipping lanes so the oil tankers can pass safely to reach countries who purchase ME oil. And for this service the US charges absolutely nothing.
     
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    Are you in control of school lunch prices?
     
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    If you are 33 and trying you will not struggle your whole life. You are correct on the arrogance and superiority part in general I suppose. Speaking for myself only, if I come off that way it’s because I don’t want my hard work and sacrifice denigrated as if I’m just lucky or privileged. I want success and the best for everyone.

    I sense you may feel as I do on this next point. Money and success does not equate with happiness. I grew up dirt poor but extremely happy and fulfilled. Looking back, our lack of money was really a choice my parents made subconsciously. My dad was a workaholic but decisions on where to live, educational opportunities pursued, and other lifestyle choices kept us in poverty.
     
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    The last thing we did was called the Bayonet Quest. We stepped off the morning of the last day of FTX and road marched a few miles to our first obstacle. It was an 8ft wall. We used our rucksacks to build a platform to get over it. We left our rucks there and went on to a commando river crossing over what I think was the Chattahoochee. Each obstacle was followed by brief interlude where a DS would read CMOH award to us. Next, we moved out and reacted to indirect fire with multiple casualties. We had to make liters and carry them for like a mile or so, where we were then tasked to carry ammo to a company in a firefight that was going black. That was about another mile or two away, and after we dropped the ammo, we had to go back and get more. After that we marched for a couple more hours to the night cliff repel. After that we marched a few hours back to the company area where the CO, and all the DSs had set up a big circle of torches around the hand to hand pit up on the hill behind ITB HQ. There, they gave us a canteen cup of blue kool-aid and told us we were turning blue. We marched down to the barracks and got blood-pinned our crossed rifles. Then we got our warriors breakfast with steaks and all the fixings. The whole thing was 25 miles.

    Did you guys do that at the end?
     
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    No but I supply them physically and monetarily.
     
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    War is becoming automated, more so all the time. We no longer take to the field with bows and swords. Yes, it's beneficial for infantry to be in top notch shape, but I'd say that technology makes up for it.
     
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    Those who have served correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t the physical training as much for the mental benefits as physical? I agree technology can fill gaps, but I don’t think fat, lazy soldiers, airmen or marines are mentally optimal for combat no matter the technology they field.

    If you’re afraid to get smashed in the face or unable to overcome physical obstacles you’re not going to have a warrior mentality.
     
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    So how do you know that the parents who pay are not paying enough for what their kids eat.
     
  13. Max Rockatansky

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    Agreed. Plus it's not just a matter of toting a rifle and a rucksack 15 miles. The Navy used to have lax physical physical fitness standards....then two Iraqi Exocet missiles slammed into USS Stark killing 29 (another 8 would die from injuries). The ship was burning and was almost lost because out-of-shape sailors became heat casualties fighting the fire and had to be escorted out, thus depriving the ship of fire-fighting personnel. Among other things following the incident, the Navy instituted a physical readiness test and included physical fitness, weight control, and health promotion as part of the program.

    Alternatively, consider something like the 9/11 attack on the Pentagon. Unless people were physically fit, they could become a liability instead of an asset and, as such, cost more lives.

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    Fair point, I'd say that's a more relevant way to approach the topic. Relevant enough to make me about face. It's reasonable to question an individuals capabilities if they can't even maintain a basic standard of health.
     
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    Some have brought up M. Obama’s lunches. When they came to flyover country the kids walked to COOP or the nearest C-store and bought candy bars and pop for lunch. Unintended consequences...
    Because even if the parent is paying what the meal cost the school district it isn’t covering the actual cost to the tax payer.

    In fact, if you buy a loaf of bread or a box of cornflakes at the market you aren’t paying what it cost to produce. It’s subsidized by the taxpayer. Less than school lunch but subsidized none the less.
     
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    Yeah, the first thing people want to do after working their shitty 9-5 job working for minimum wage is go walking and running whole entire blocks while feeling numb as they just had their entire soul sucked out of them from monotony.

    The number one thing people do under stress, duress, and anxiety is eat.

    [Drink and wash all that food down with a nice amount of opioids.]

    This what happens when you live in a high stress miserable society that is borderline suicidal and in many ways fundamentally retarded.
     
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    That's their choice and the choice of their parents to give them money. It's should be the taxpayer's choice not to throw up our hands in surrender and feed them pizza, Coke and chocolate pudding.

    Which is why We, the People shouldn't subsidize junk food.
     
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    Petroleum military, must extract the oil at all costs.
     
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    A national health concern needs national leadership to change. President Eisenhower established the President's Council on Sports, Fitness and Nutrition. I remember when President GHW Bush appointed Arnold Schwarzenegger to head the council. The council still exists, but obviously doesn't get much emphasis these days. Why?

    http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=18049

    https://www.hhs.gov/fitness/index.html
     
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    I don't think they can automate everything, seems more like a pipedream.
     
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    That sounds good, but do you have anything to back that up.
     
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    Disdain for the plebs, "They can all die off now, thank you."
     
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    The real problem is the costs, healthier foods costs more.

    Then we have economic statistical manipulation of numbers concerning inflation costs of food too.
     
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    Correct, but why? Partly for the aforementioned reasons. Middle class and wealthier people eat the best cuts of meat and vegetables. The poor eat "meat byproducts" AKA worse than Spam which is primarily fat mixed with "meat".
     
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    Exactly, we come back full circle to the disdain of the working class or plebs.

    "They can all die off now as we're doing God's work, thank you."
     
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