Top General Says Mexico Border Security Now ‘Existential’ Threat to U.S. .....

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by MMC, Feb 19, 2019.

  1. WalterSobchak

    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2010
    Messages:
    24,684
    Likes Received:
    21,745
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You think the Cartels will stop operating if there is a wall?
     
  2. Adfundum

    Adfundum Moderator Staff Member Donor

    Joined:
    Jul 31, 2018
    Messages:
    7,698
    Likes Received:
    4,178
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Well, first of all you should stick with what I said, not what your bias makes you think I said. I'm not arguing for no wall, fence, barrier. I'm arguing that it would be ineffective as far as the drugs, but mostly I'm arguing that we need to be way more focused on our drug use. As long as such a lucrative demand is there, the supply will be there also.

    We've been all through the arguments about how the drugs come in, and I'm sticking with what the DEA and other government agencies say. Until their methodology is shown to be wrong, I'm with them.
     
    WalterSobchak likes this.
  3. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    66,736
    Likes Received:
    46,529
    Trophy Points:
    113
    You're welcome to go with the argument "we know more drugs come in at ports of entry where we have lots of people compared to places we have no control and no people" if you'd like.

    It's a logical fallacy though.
     
  4. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    66,736
    Likes Received:
    46,529
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Do criminals stop trying to break into houses because you have a door?

    No. They won't, but they'll be forced to expend more effort than stepping over a log, or walking through the space where a door could be.
     
    Last edited: Feb 19, 2019
    ArchStanton likes this.
  5. WalterSobchak

    WalterSobchak Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 21, 2010
    Messages:
    24,684
    Likes Received:
    21,745
    Trophy Points:
    113
    So no then?
     
  6. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2017
    Messages:
    20,747
    Likes Received:
    9,033
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    .....or a free lunch on the United States.
     
  7. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2017
    Messages:
    20,747
    Likes Received:
    9,033
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    And when there is a door, they get charged with "breaking and entering".
     
    vman12 likes this.
  8. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 4, 2015
    Messages:
    71,009
    Likes Received:
    90,751
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    ArchStanton likes this.
  9. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2015
    Messages:
    66,736
    Likes Received:
    46,529
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No, they won't stop trying to get drugs in. Who said they wouldn't?

    That's a leftists stupid argument.
     
  10. Questerr

    Questerr Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2007
    Messages:
    63,174
    Likes Received:
    4,995
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Really? How does increased taxes on the rich benefit rich old white men?
     
  11. Questerr

    Questerr Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2007
    Messages:
    63,174
    Likes Received:
    4,995
    Trophy Points:
    113

    Prove that bullshit claim.
     
  12. Questerr

    Questerr Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2007
    Messages:
    63,174
    Likes Received:
    4,995
    Trophy Points:
    113
    We've had "free lunches" in the United States since the 60's yet illegal immigration only ramped up after the start of the War on Drugs.
     
  13. Hoosier8

    Hoosier8 Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    107,541
    Likes Received:
    34,488
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Link? Border security has been somewhat ignored for decades and it is no surprise that Obama did little except advertise for more migrants during his administration.
     
  14. MMC

    MMC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2012
    Messages:
    41,793
    Likes Received:
    14,697
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Oh.....you didn't know General Kelly is a Democrat. Imagine that.

    If you think the article is about Kelly being for Trumps wall. Then I must thank you for that limitation you just showed everybody.

    Although its not surprising that you couldn't comprehend the crisis that Kelly stated existed 4 years ago and has continued on to this day. While your Demos and your kind run around clueless saying there is no emergency. There is no crisis.

    Of course you not having any Military experience or training limits your knowledge as to what you think you know. As if you had any.....you would clearly know who was in charge of what Commands and know what they pimped out for your lame stream to inform the sub average of leftists citizens.
     
    Last edited: Feb 20, 2019
  15. MMC

    MMC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2012
    Messages:
    41,793
    Likes Received:
    14,697
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male

    Par for the course with leftists. I figure its because of everything they did turned out as failure and is recorded down in the annuals of history.

    Yeah that Arizona Sherriff mentioned how it went back 31 years. Of course they must have missed when their Special Man said it was a crisis. I think the stuttering threw then off.
     
    ArchStanton and vman12 like this.
  16. MMC

    MMC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2012
    Messages:
    41,793
    Likes Received:
    14,697
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male

    I know Right.....even their leftist cult following. Which as you can see still cannot comprehend what the Demos were saying in 2014. Not even with their Special Man saying it loud and proud.
     
    Ddyad likes this.
  17. MMC

    MMC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2012
    Messages:
    41,793
    Likes Received:
    14,697
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male

    [​IMG]
     
    ArchStanton and Ddyad like this.
  18. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2017
    Messages:
    20,747
    Likes Received:
    9,033
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    In the 60's through most of the seventies we deported illegal invaders. We didn't have" catch and release." Illegal invaders have legal council that informs them how lax our laws are and if they can just get across the border, they can stay. Free emergency treatment, free school lunches, free legal council.
     
    ArchStanton and Ddyad like this.
  19. Questerr

    Questerr Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2007
    Messages:
    63,174
    Likes Received:
    4,995
    Trophy Points:
    113
    We deport more illegals now than we did then.
     
  20. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2017
    Messages:
    20,747
    Likes Received:
    9,033
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    yes....and they come right back multiple times and get counted again and again. Did we have 20 million illegal residents, potential Democrat votes. back then?
     
    Last edited: Feb 20, 2019
  21. Questerr

    Questerr Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2007
    Messages:
    63,174
    Likes Received:
    4,995
    Trophy Points:
    113
    We didn't have a population of 350 million back then either.
     
  22. MMC

    MMC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2012
    Messages:
    41,793
    Likes Received:
    14,697
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male

    That is because there is more to deport now than back then.
     
    ArchStanton and Ddyad like this.
  23. Questerr

    Questerr Banned

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2007
    Messages:
    63,174
    Likes Received:
    4,995
    Trophy Points:
    113
    As a percentage of the population?
     
  24. yabberefugee

    yabberefugee Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2017
    Messages:
    20,747
    Likes Received:
    9,033
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    So you are o.k. with over 5.5% of our population that draws on our entitlements, steals our ID to work and shouldn't even be here? I'd say that alone is a National Emergency! That doesn't take in account all the drugs and human slavery they bring with them!
     
    Ddyad likes this.
  25. MMC

    MMC Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Sep 4, 2012
    Messages:
    41,793
    Likes Received:
    14,697
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male

    Of whos population. Honduras? El Salvador? Guatemala? Mexico? As the illegals coming from those countries has increased.
     
    ArchStanton and Ddyad like this.

Share This Page