Top US Commander: Iran sanctions failed, Iran enriching beyond any peaceful purposes

Duh, Iran has a history of denial and deceit. Iran is enriching uranium beyond any plausible peaceful purpose. Who knew? I've been told that according to the mullahs nuclear weapons is against their faith...and so is lying to the infidels. But then, what does the Head of US Central Command know after all?

 

We have no choice but to carpet bomb Iran. Hit them with some MOAB's and dismantle their nuclear ambitions from afar.

 

Top US Commander: Iran sanctions failed, Iran enriching beyond any peaceful purposes


Seriously you don't think the "Top US Commander" is full of crap do ya? Ordered by the usual suspects, the Khazars to lie!

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The US media is once again reporting Israeli speculation on Iranian attempts to build a nuclear weapon.

Now, I do think the current Iranian government would like to have nuclear weapons capability.

But here’s a timeline of Israeli warnings on Iranian nukes

1984: West German intelligence sources claim that Iran’s production of a bomb “is entering its final stages.” US Senator Alan Cranston claims Iran is seven years away from making a weapon.

1992: Israeli parliamentarian Benjamin Netanyahu tells his colleagues that Iran is 3 to 5 years from being able to produce a nuclear weapon.

1995: The New York Times reports that US and Israeli officials fear “Iran is much closer to producing nuclear weapons than previously thought” – less than five years away. Netanyahu claims the time frame is three to five years.

1996: Israeli Prime Minister Shimon Peres claims Iran will have nuclear weapons in four years.

1998: Former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld claims Iran could build an ICBM capable of reaching the US within five years.

1999: An Israeli military official claims that Iran will have a nuclear weapon within five years.

2001: The Israeli Minister of Defence claims that Iran will be ready to launch a nuclear weapon in less than four years.

2002: The CIA warns that the danger of nuclear weapons from Iran is higher than during the Cold War, because its missile capability has grown more quickly than expected since 2000 – putting it on par with North Korea.

2003: A high-ranking Israeli military officer tells the Knesset that Iran will have the bomb by 2005 — 17 months away.

2006: A State Department official claims that Iran may be capable of building a nuclear weapon in 16 days.

2008: An Israeli general tells the Cabinet that Iran is “half-way” to enriching enough uranium to build a nuclear weapon and will have a working weapon no later than the end of 2010.

2009: Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak estimates that Iran is 6-18 months away from building an operative nuclear weapon.

2010: Israeli decision-makers believe that Iran is at most 1-3 years away from being able to assemble a nuclear weapon.

2011: IAEA report indicates that Iran could build a nuclear weapon within months.

2013: Israeli intelligence officials claim that Iran could have the bomb by 2015 or 2016.

There shouldn’t be any doubt that it is entirely foolish to rely on Israeli intelligence on the matter.

http://liberalconspiracy.org/2013/01/29/all-the-years-israel-said-an-iranian-nuke-was-imminent/

 

I certainly don't subscribe to the fantasy that Israel is calling the shots for the US.

However, empirical evidence from both Iraq and Afghanistan demonstrates a pretty low threshold for US military certitude of intelligence reports.

Just like Hussein had WMD being manufactured in "mobile gas factories" and was working on nuke development, etc. I think that the bar for credibility must be set much higher than a commanding general simply saying it in some committe hearing.

the last total clustermuk of US intelligence and administration malfeasance cost hundred of thousands of Iraqi lives, 5,000 US dead, over 30000 wounded and cost $1,000,000,000,000.

At least Obama won't rush into any war nor does he have a personal axe to grind.

 

Ah well, brutal bullying doesn't always work, it seems. Might as well start treating Iran with respect and stop trying to kill Iranian children.

 

I agree,

I trust in the US estimations on the subject.

 

They figured brutal bullying will prevent brutal force, now they bullied and might also use force, hitting them without much fuess would have been better. lesson learned?

 

You'll end your aggressive rhetoric soon enough- when we can separate you from the US of AIPAC umbrella.

 

I tend to agree with most of that. However, you seem to be suggesting the intentions of the West in relation to the intelligence were benign, when the evidence indicates otherwise.

 

No I would say it was the Christian Zionists who have propelled Israel's most right wing throughout the years so that we find ourselves in the situation we are in now. If the Christian Zionist perspective loses sway among the rest of the Christians in the US, Israel could see a shattering change in her popularity.

The Iran thing though is interesting. A few days ago their was a rumour that Obama was going to give an ultimatum to Israel re settlements. In a set of articles at jfjfp, they suggest if Net has not formed a government then the visit is off but if he does go, instead of discussing Iran, Syria and the Palestinians, in view of the present violence, it could be that he would not discuss Iran but spend all his time talking about the possibility of a Palestinian State.

It does not sound that he is keen on helping Israel attack Iran.

articles here http://jfjfp.com/?p=40324

 

I would rather blow israel up.

Iran has never invaded or caused any war in my life time, so i would rather have them, than israel.

Carpet bombing................. i didnt think of that.

Nukes work better and sound more biblical (fire from the sky)

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I would rather blow israel up.

Iran has never invaded or caused any war in my life time, so i would rather have them, than israel.

Carpet bombing................. i didnt think of that.

Nukes work better and sound more biblical (fire from the sky)

 

You keep fighting windmills and keep getting supprised you have'nt won yet let me try and help.....your enemy....doesnt exist Moon.

 

these threads show which bigots are the enemy.

AIPAC is treason to America

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these threads show which bigots are the enemy.

AIPAC is treason to America

And there should not be americans supporting a religious state. It's anti american!

 

They aren't the only ones...

I would not believe any "tough-talk" from Washington to Israel. The US has always been portraying itself as a fair and balanced mediator between Israel and Palestine, but that's pretty much garbage. Now there's just more tough talk that will probably amount to just talk while Israel continues doing what it's doing. Being a country will hardly prevent you from being exploited all the same.

 

American practice their freedom and support whatever they want to support its certainly not "treason" its part of the US constitution, and you support Iran - which is your right to do so - canceles your 2nd point.

 

US citizens aint israel citizens.

There is no 2 loyaties when it comes to loving the land that feeds you.

The dual application is based on religious ignorance.

i dont support Iran.

I would love to see iran, equally equiped as israel, because then perhaps israelis will stop oppressing human beings, throughout the region and threatening every country or person that hates the bigot swine of zionist punks

AIPAC is perhaps the single greatest enemy of the USA than any single entity or group, period!

The reason is their loyalty is not for 'we the people' (human beings).

 

Do you support Abu Adolf Mazen when he gladly accepts US Dollars aid ?

 

Do they have a gaza and allowed to shoot phosphorus munitions on the civilians? If not, then the holocaust is not the same.


Who's going to open the thread on the 7000 estimated palestinian children abducted by israel police and the UN just claimed to require humanitary treatment?

I didnt know that israel was still holding the children hostages from the palestinian families.

You'd think that if the whole world supposedly hated jews as they claim, that their children would be abducted too.

But it aint so, because it aint 'jew' that people hate it is what bigots do for their beliefs, that is horrid.


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Do they have a gaza and allowed to shoot phosphorus munitions on the civilians? If not, then the holocaust is not the same.


Who's going to open the thread on the 7000 estimated palestinian children abducted by israel police and the UN just claimed to require humanitary treatment?

I didnt know that israel was still holding the children hostages from the palestinian families.

You'd think that if the whole world supposedly hated jews as they claim, that their children would be abducted too.

But it aint so, because it aint 'jew' that people hate it is what bigots do for their beliefs, that is horrid.


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Go ahead OPEN the thread & add proof .
That is one of the most craziest stories i've ever heard here. :icon_pee:

 

Supporting some freindly state doesnt mean you are a citizen of that state or that you forefit your current citizenship.....what are you talking about?

Can you love your family, God and your country in the same time? why not neighbors and a football team ? how about caring for the kids of an enemy you wiped out with bombs ? how about an ally you fight with side by side ? how do you "share" your loyalty here?

I ask again, what are you talking about ?

That's just the usual paranoid nonsense on Israel, nothing serious.

Im sure you got a reason to open a civil war in the US against American Jews and various Jew-lovers, I just didnt understand that reason.

 

Are you suggesting there are 7000 Palestinian children in Israeli prisons that just vanished and nobody knows about? is that you claim ?

 

Why don't you tell how many Palestinian children are in Israel's prisons ?

 

If you support his claim can you provide with some evidence that comes close to that number?

 

From every IAEA inspection report I've read there is no evidence that Iran is enriching uranium beyond 20% which is necessary for numerous peaceful purposes and isn't anywhere close to the 90% enrichment necessary for nuclear weapons. Since the article doesn't mention what level of enrichment General Mattis believes Iran to be enriching uranium to, and based upon the fact that the IAEA is technically tracking every gram of nuclear material in Iran, we have to wonder where his opinion is coming from. If it's only 20% enrichment that can only be used for peaceful purposes and not for nuclear weapons, which Iran admits to and has a right to produce under the NPT, then what is General Mattis referring to?

 

"personal axe to grind". From all reports Bush and the neo-cons "managed" the intel. and knowingly lied to the world, although they were smart enough to have some plausible if transparent deniablity.