Top US Commander: Iran sanctions failed, Iran enriching beyond any peaceful purposes

the problem is the Israelis have a powerful hasbara unit and own the media while Iran doesn't

Irans TV channels are being closed down one by one because the real terrorists dont want the other side of the story to reach the American public who till down are in a coma to what is going on around the world and fed a daily diet of propaganda

 

Iran may be researching nuclear weapons technology, but US intelligence experts do not think it is actively trying to make an atomic bomb, reports the Los Angeles Times. Iran apparently stopped its bomb-building program in 2003, according to a secret report circulated last year that reflects the position of 16 American intelligence agencies, as well as another national intelligence estimate compiled in 2007.

http://www.newser.com/story/140396/us-intelligence-iran-not-making-bomb.html

But here’s a timeline of Israeli warnings on Iranian nukes (via Opinio Juris)


1984: West German intelligence sources claim that Iran’s production of a bomb “is entering its final stages.” US Senator Alan Cranston claims Iran is seven years away from making a weapon.

1992: Israeli parliamentarian Benjamin Netanyahu tells his colleagues that Iran is 3 to 5 years from being able to produce a nuclear weapon.

1995: The New York Times reports that US and Israeli officials fear “Iran is much closer to producing nuclear weapons than previously thought” – less than five years away. Netanyahu claims the time frame is three to five years.

1996: Israeli Prime Minister Shimon Peres claims Iran will have nuclear weapons in four years.

1998: Former Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld claims Iran could build an ICBM capable of reaching the US within five years.

1999: An Israeli military official claims that Iran will have a nuclear weapon within five years.

2001: The Israeli Minister of Defence claims that Iran will be ready to launch a nuclear weapon in less than four years.

2002: The CIA warns that the danger of nuclear weapons from Iran is higher than during the Cold War, because its missile capability has grown more quickly than expected since 2000 – putting it on par with North Korea.

2003: A high-ranking Israeli military officer tells the Knesset that Iran will have the bomb by 2005 — 17 months away.

2006: A State Department official claims that Iran may be capable of building a nuclear weapon in 16 days.

2008: An Israeli general tells the Cabinet that Iran is “half-way” to enriching enough uranium to build a nuclear weapon and will have a working weapon no later than the end of 2010.

2009: Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak estimates that Iran is 6-18 months away from building an operative nuclear weapon.

2010: Israeli decision-makers believe that Iran is at most 1-3 years away from being able to assemble a nuclear weapon.

2011: IAEA report indicates that Iran could build a nuclear weapon within months.

2013: Israeli intelligence officials claim that Iran could have the bomb by 2015 or 2016.


Oy bloody vey...

http://liberalconspiracy.org/2013/01/29/all-the-years-israel-said-an-iranian-nuke-was-imminent/

 

And Uncle Tom Cobley says they will have a bomb by tea time tomorrow.

 

Oh no, does that mean JEWS ARE IN GLOBAL PERIL?

 

There is one global menace, and that's the Jewish shot callers, and their Zionist shills, in the US and in Europe.

It is disgusting, the US, the UK, Italy, France, they should really be putting all their efforts into making their nation strong, by making their own society strong, not simpering around to Jews, not trying to drag us into yet another illegal war for Zion, and for bankers to get rich from.

And like almost all countries these days, to accomodate this, Italy are prepared to put a stain on their highest honours.

Just like the US and the UK are, these days.

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Italian Foreign Minister Giulio Terzi says if Iran acquires military nuclear capability, the situation in the Middle East will change forever.


"With a nuclear Iran, the rules of the Middle Eastern game would not only change overnight; they would change irreversibly," Terzi said at the 13th Annual Herzliya Conference at the Dan Accadia Hotel in Herzliya, Israel, on Wednesday, Israel's Ynetnews reported.

This is as top Iranian officials have time and again stressed that Iran is only using its nuclear technology for peaceful purposes, especially in the field of medicine, and the capability has never been diverted to military ends.

Frequent inspections by the International Atomic Energy Agency of Iran's nuclear sites have also failed to produce the slightest evidence to support Western claims that Iran is after producing a nuclear bomb.

In addition, Iran has always cooperated with the UN nuclear agency as no other member state has ever been the subject of so many inspections.

The Italian minister also made a reference to Israel as main contributor to peace and stability in the Middle East.


“As the dust settles, and room grows for new ideas, Israel will be the first and foremost engine of a new path towards a more secure and peaceful Middle East."

Israel is the only possessor of nuclear weapons in the Middle East with estimates of 200 to 300 atomic warheads.

http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/03/14/293537/nuclear-iran-will-change-mideast-game/

Italian foreign minister Giulio Terzi and Moshe kantor

According to Italian press reports, the President of the European Jewish Congress, Moshe Kantor, has received Italy’s highest award: Knight of the Great Cross of the Order of Merit of the ItalianRepublic.

http://jewishbusinessnews.com/2013/03/10/people-in-the-aconomy-cellia-shani/

 

Just LOOK at David Frum, what a mutant...[video=youtube;_vLdB1e3lM4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_vLdB1e3lM4&feature=player_detailpage[/video]

 

To address the above but not in order the first point I would make is that my limited research indicated the LEU (up to 20%) is used in commerical nuclear reactors for production of electricity along with having medical uses. HEU is above 20% enrichment and there is no evidence that Iran is enriching beyond the 20% level or anywhere close to reaching weapons grade uranium of above 85%? I believe then can but they haven't done that.

I'm not as pessimistic about a means for ensuring the stopping of nuclear weapon proliferation but instead I'm seeing a pragmatic problem with it. Since 1974 numerous resolutions have called for a Nuclear Weapons-Free Zone (NWFZ) in the Middle East. Since then this proposal was expanded by Egypt in 1990 to a Weapons of Mass Destruction-Free Zone (WMDFZ) in the Middle East. A more recent background is provided below:

http://www.armscontrol.org/factsheets/mewmdfz

The problem is that Israel is a nation that refuses to comply with it's international obligations by refusing to comply with UN Security Council Resolution 242 by a willingness to withdraw from all territories it occuplied in 1967 (and thereafter) to achieve peace in the region. Obvoiously all conditions of UNSC 242 need to be implemented but Israel has been adament that it will not withdraw from the territories it occupied in 1967 which effectively blocks the full implementation of UNSC 242. The linkage to "durable peace and compliance with international obligations by states in the region" is a ploy by Israel to consolidate it's territorial land grab from the 1960's because Israel is a nation of non-compliance with it's international obligations by refusing to comply with UNSC Resolutions and International Law.

The Weapons of Mass Destruction-Free Zone (WMDFZ) proposal for the Middle East does include provisions for verification which all nations would be required to comply with. Iran has long stated that it would support this proposal and would allow any inspections that were required for verification that Israel would also be required to comply with. It is Israel's refusal to join in the NPT and to agree to a WMDFZ Middle East that is preventing inspections in Iran that the IAEA and UN seek. That has been the case for years. Iran simply refuses to comply with the hypocracy of the IAEA and UN which does nothing about Israel's nuclear weapons. Economic sanctions against Israel would force it to eventually face the fact that it must dismantle it's nuclear arsenal and it would then be safer if it was a member of a verifiable WMDFZ Middle East treaty.

India and Pakistan would be an easier problem to resolve. Both cite nuclear weapons as being necessary as a deterant agianst a nuclear attack by the other nation. Both nations would be better off if they both dismantled their nuclear weapons and economic sanctions against both would force them to acknowledge this and agree to dismantle their nuclear weapons.

N Korea is a little tougher but we must acknowledge that having US troops on its border when the US has nuclear weapons creates a real and creditable threat to N Korea. I would hold the belief that if the US was willing to withdraw from S Korea that N Korea would dismantle its nuclear weapons because it would no longer have a reason for a nuclear deterant against a potential US assisted invasion from S Korea. It's almost 60 years since the Korean War and there is no logical or justifiable reason for the US military to still be in S Korea. Without the threat of China being involved in another Korean War, and China would not be involved, there is no logical reason for the US military in S Korea.

We need to disarm the rogue nuclear weapon nations and also continue to significantly reduced the nuclear weapon stockpiles of the US and Russia which still have far more nuclear weapons than it would take to drive mankind back into the stone age.

 

Iran has an open policy of no nuclear weapons and allows agreed nuclear inspections. Israel has a policy of ' maybe we've got them, maybe we don't ' and doesn't allow any inspections. As it's possession of nuclear weapons which causes nuclear proliferation, which government is at fault ?

 

The same Palestinian pro Iran Propaganda of lies.
Iran's fanatic Ayatollahs are playing tricks at the free world.
Once they reach the bomb they will be better off facing international pressure and sanctions.
They do not care if the Iranian pershian people will starve and live in poverty like North Korea

 

A 45mins insight that gives you a deeper understanding...

[video=youtube;wd9j2k8Zn04]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wd9j2k8Zn04&feature=player_embedded[/video]

 

Following on from 202.

I am British, and I am SICK of living in this condition of perpetual wars of aggression, it is pure Orwellian, now to the degree that it's ALL the time, overlapping, and so hazy, that no one is sure what the hell we are meant to be doing, but I do know this. It is causing great poverty to my country, and great misery of British and Europeans. I know that people here are SICK of this BS, we are sick that the UK were dropping bombs on Libya, at a £1m a throw, then they turn around, give tax breaks to the rich, and leave the working class and middle class high and dry.

I am sick of their stain being upon me, and my country, I am sick of their decisions creating an impression that we support these bastards, I am sick of the novel idea that the Gov and public servants, serve us.

I am tired of this, the US can do what the hell it wants, and hell mend them, but if those that have usurped us go on draining us this way, and making our future less safe and propserous, and if there is no alternative in the mainstream, then we are going to have no alternative, in the end, other than to declare all parties here as being enemies of the people, and remove them, by whatever means.

Meantime..

The warlike Jews in Israel and the deformed Rothschilds bloodline will have their war on Iran, only they will use goy to fight it.

American president Barack Obama has intimated that he will order an attack on Iran within a year “should diplomatic efforts fail” to prevent Iran from allegedly obtaining an “atom bomb.”

For Obama and his Zionist controllers to demand a “diplomatic solution” to a problem which does not even exist, is nothing but a blind and an excuse to wage war against the Iranians.

It is impossible to reach a “diplomatic” solution to the mythical “Iranian atom bomb” and the lack of progress which must inevitably result from such nonsense will then be presented to the American public via the Jewish controlled mass media as the “reason” for a new catastrophic and costly war in the Middle East—all to save Israel once again.

http://www.timesofisrael.com/obama-intimates-us-to-strike-iran-if-diplomacy-fails-in-2013/

 

Excellent, at least up to this point, then you go and ruin it.

 

It's true though. I am 40, and unless people like me, and in all shapes and sizes say enough is enough, our country is screwed, and I cannot be on my death bed, and know that I did nothing, therefore, there must be a point in which we, as a nation, say we have tried being nice, we have been so patient, we have been very forgiving, you have robbed us, you are sending our men to die, you are causing misery everywhere, you are doing NOTHING positive for us, and all of you are the same and must ALL leave and go.

I am tired of it.

If it comes down to it, and I do not say this lightly, I would be prepared to die to stop them ruining our future, and the future of generations that DESERVE better.

If they Britsh army want to shoot one of their own people, let me be that person.

I dare them, indeed, I almost want them to do it.

 

Well, there is a word for this incredible hipocricy: Chutzpah!

 

Like Israel?
Do they not sanction Israel, because Zionists are playing the "mad-dog-card"?

Well, in this case the NPT is just a joke!
I cannot understand why Iran has not abandoned this silly NPT yet!

 

Well, it was similar before WWII, wasn't it?

They needed a big War, and they got it.

Wars are always good for banksters.

But to 99,99% of people these wars were unnecessary wars.

We will get another unnecessary war, and a lot of Goyim will die, killing each other.

But, on the other hand - if the Goyim are so stupid and cannot understand that they are treated like cattle, if they are so willing to die and if they can be so easily fooled and instigated against each other... maybe they deserve their destiny?

 

Maybe they do, and if there was some way of getting them + their Jewish shot callers to be removed to the North Pole,and then cut off from normal people, they could kiss ass all day, for all I care.

However, they have no right to drag the future and the rest of the World down with them, as they are doing.

It's not all about money for the Jewish shot callers. If it were so, they would have long since achieved all the riches they could reasonably ever need. If anything, it has gotten more pervasive, esp over the past 250yrs, when that Bauer family began to reach it's tentacles out, across Europe, and the US, and beyond.

But it is not merely about profit to them. There is more. Due to the very life they have led, and due to the in breeding of those lines, they live in a virtual reality, the like of which we can only imagine. The more they have gotten away with, the more it feeds their delusion that they are almost as gods in human form, and as with fabled gods, they do not see themselves as accountable, nor do they feel a need to apologise for acts of genocide and infanticide, just as the Jewish God (who was really a reflection of the nature of ancient Hebrews), did not account for his social engineering, even if it involved such things.

Look at Germany. On the surface, a modern country, but how can it be modern, when on one hand, you can be arrested for having more than one holoco$t revisionist book in your own home, while, at the same time, torture porn and simulated rape porn is okay, as was beasility, until earlier this year. How is it possible to make criminals of the former, and give the latter a free pass, and surely this is merely a symptom of what is wrong in Germany, and beyond.

Look at the US for goodnes sake. There are STILL morons that do not think the Rep has been subvered, FFS, what WOULD it take for them to see it? I realise that some that say they do not, are probably really Israeli, passing themselves off as Americans in denial, but as to the other, for heavens sake, you do not NEED the silly Protocol of Zion book, just LOOK at the US today, and the World by extension.

A Jewish Israeli President gets more standing ovations on American soil, than the US President????

US war vets are left to rot, while an IDF fundraise on American soil, raised millions????

Jews murder almost an entire American naval crew, it is glossed over. Why?

Neither US party ever suggest cutting costs on Israel.

US Presidents line up to offer their pledge to Israel, more times than they do the US.

The US send men to die in wars at the behest of Jewish shot callers. No one says a word.

Like I say, you do not need the bloody Protocols of Zion, all you need to do is LOOK today!!!

 

No, of course not, but money still plays a big role.

On the other hand, the people that are used as "speakers" are usually very vulnerable.



I guess that the "vulnerability" is the most important precondition for being "pre-elected".

 

Agree, the Old Testament with its prophecies is even more outspoken than the "phony Protocols", and there are a lot of useful idiots, called "Christians", who believe in these prophecies.

 

Imo also, they are not engineering wars forever, on and on, with no end or clear destination in sight. It may seem that way, and has been, for a couple of centuries, but no, there is a destination to this, I believe. Let's not forget, there is something that sets them aside from normal motives, and that is they are artifically trying to manifest a twist on text written in their own books, , they have already stolen the term semite, for most of them are not semites, they have stolen the Biblical name of Israel, which created the desired impact of duping millions of Christians, post war, it's all artifical, they have not a drop of blood that relates them to that land, they are Russian, Polish, German Jews, that is who seeded it, nothing to do with the Hebrews of the OT either, it is all fake.

They were not even religous, most were 'atheist', which shows that Jews are not a religion, since I have never heard of an atheist RC or an atheist Muslim. However, despite not being religous per se, they are taking their OT and Talmud, and sort of twisting and shaping a real life narrative, to fit with it. It is obvious to me. We see the evidence, fake Israel, fake Jews 'returning', fake history, and what this leads to, if my calcuations are right, is the final completion of what they call 'Greater Israel', which would incorporate parts of Iraq and Egypt, as well. This has always been their intent. This is very bad news, since as a part of that, they are now taking on the concept of 'all the wealth of the nations shall belong to them'. We can see they are doing that too, surely?

I do not think these things are all coincidences, I believe they are being played out this way. The bad news does not end there. They want to rebuild the Temple. This would mean that the Mosque that presently sits there would have to go, and I do not need tell you of the World wide implications of them doing that. More scary is what they plan to do with the Temple. I can only call it black magic in a sense, since it involves large scale animal sacrifice for three days, after which they believe their messiah will emerge. Now, remember, just as they have forced other things to occur, their messiah is not expected to be like an invisible entity, but a man, a Jew in human form, who wil be the 'descendent' of some Jewish bull(*)(*)(*)(*). I can well see them appointing a v powerful Jew, perhaps a Rothschild. The role he would perform? Formal 'king' of the globe. Don't think we are heading this way? Looks to me as if we have been for some time now...

 

Well, W Bush was talking about the fight between the Gog and Magog.

I think that the Jews do not play any significant role in this madness.

Yes, Jewish banksters take profit from the stupidity of Christian fundamentalists, but Zionism and the Jewish banking elite is a creation of Christian fundamentalists.

Christian Fundamentalists needed Jewish financiers, because Christianity prohibited usury, that is the reason why today most banker dynasties are of Jewish origin.

Christians needed the fulfilment of their prophecies, they tried to conquer the Holy Land with own forces, but the Muslims stopped this project.

In the 19th century some emancipated Jews (like Disraeli, who became a Christian) decided that they can find an agreement with Christian fundamentalists, and that was the birth of Christian Zionism, that was originally a Christian phenomenon.

Well, Jewish bankers were emancipated Jews, that is the reason why these emancipated rich Jews could so easily persuade many influential Christians and Jews to join forces and create a New global government.

As we see, is a Symbiosis of fundamental Christians and non-fundamental Jews. Fundamental Jews reject Zionism, because it is incompatible with classical Judaism. Only the Jewish Messiah can re-establish Israel, that is why so many Orthodox Jews reject Zionism.

Disraeli was a "racial Jew" (he, as a Christian, believed in the existence of the Jewish race and he was proud of his race), and he just supported the tendencies that were already present in the British philo-Semitic "educated" Elite. There was a phenomenon, called "British Israelism", and it is understandable that Disraeli and other "racial Jews" supported this doctrine.

Well, I think that Churchill, Wilson and Roosevelt were also adherents of this peculiar Christian doctrine, that was the reason why they were supported by Jewish banksters. Besides that, Churchill was broke, and his "Jewish friends" rescued him from poverty .

Churchill hated the Jewish Bolsheviks, but he was a stupid man who believed that there was a real conflict between the Bolsheviks, like Trotsky, and Jewish bankers. In reality Bolsheviks were supported by Jewish bankers, and there was a big collaboration of all political movements of Jews.

As we see, the reason why America was involved in WWI and in WWII is quote obvious, and this involvement was not good for the world, because it was initiated by the Jewish bankers who had their own agenda that was not in the interests of Palestinians.

This American involvement changed the natural power balance in Europe, and that lead to WWII and may also lead to WWIII, because History is an interconnected process, it is not chopped off into blocks like the 24 hours day or the 365-day year, history is a continuum.

 

Art, there is no such thing as Judeo Christianity, there is Judaism, there is Christianity, they are distinct, and could not be more so. The JC term only came into parlance a relative short time ago, but it remains a falsity. Moreover, Christianity itself has been under theological attack by organised Jewry, for a long time, but esp since the end of WW2, when you could go as far as to say that an aggressive attempt has been made to rewrite the Christian religion, and therefore, by doing so, take generation off in a wrong direction.

Christian Zionists are little more than a product of that, in the US. There is NOTHING Christian about them, they all sound and write like Jewish extermists, simple as that.

They ain't the true shot callers in all of this, merely useful idiots.

The true shot callers in all of this are Jewish extermists, be they in the form of IPAC, the ADL ,or the many Jewish banks, or the key Jewish families, like the Rothschilds.

You do make some fine observations.

 

Well, the problem is that the Old Testament is part of the Christian Bible.

And in the New Testament Jesus talks about the "Prophets", like Moses.

Moses is a "positive figure" in the New Testament and even in the Koran.

And here is the teaching of Moses:

Neither Christians nor Muslims rejected the "good guys" of the Hebrew Old Testament, Jews, Christians and Muslims are called "Abrahamits", and that is the reason why Jews can easily subvert Christianity and Islam.

 

We know what really needs to be done, but in the words of this Jewish Zionist singer, we 'don't have the discipline'...

Ah you loved me as a loser, but now you're worried that I just might win
You know the way to stop me, but you don't have the discipline
How many nights I prayed for this, to let my work begin
First we take Manhattan, then we take Berlin


http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric....eonard-Cohen/926CCB64249F308848256AF00028CB85